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Cleveland Browns 2020 Offseason Review

2020.07.23 16:02 goingsouthhiker Cleveland Browns 2020 Offseason Review

I was tasked to write the offseason review for NFL so here it is

Cleveland Browns

Division: AFC North
Record: 6 - 10
Introduction
Hey everyone u/goingsouthhiker here to provide you more information than you ever wanted to know about the Cleveland Browns. My first distinct memory as a child is my fathers face in stunned silence as Ernest Byner fumbled at the goaline. I have been gifted through some sick hereditary defect a lifelong love of the Browns. so here you go.
 
Coaching Changes/GM Changes
 
Freddie Kitchens Fired  
On December 29th, 2019, the Browns fired head coach Freddie Kitchens. This is the culmination of a coaching hire that seemed to be entirely based upon folksy blue collar catch phrases “if you don’t wear brown and orange, you don’t matter” and a good relationship with Baker Mayfield.  
Some of Freddie's greatest hits included
  • 4th and 9 - Draw Play
  • Madden Style 5 WR streaks from your own goal line
  • Send out the punt team on 4th-and-11 down 17 points in the fourth quarter to the New England Patriots, only to change his mind and take a deliberate false start rather than burn a timeout.
  • 4th and 1 on the goal line and not have Nick Chubb on the field
 
John Dorsey Fired  
On December 31st, 2019, the Browns and general manager John Dorsey mutually agreed to part ways after an up and down tenure that brought in a lot of talent but ultimately the decision to hire Kitchens and some questionable high draft picks sank him.
 
Kevin Stefanski Hired  
On January 13th, 2020, the Browns hired former Minnesota Vikings' offensive coordinator Kevin Stefanski as head coach. This is another first time head coach hire for the browns after an exhaustive coaching search. This hire is the one Paul Depodesta of Moneyball Fame banged the table for prior to the promotion of Kitchens so ultimately the nerds won the battle a year too late.
 
Andrew Berry Hired  
On January 27th, 2020, the Browns hired former Philadelphia Eagles' vice president of football operations Andrew Berry as general manager. Berry previously served as the Browns' vice president of player personnel from 2016–18 under Sashi Brown. At age 32, Berry became the youngest general manager in NFL history.
Berry has been considered in league circles as the next great rising front office star even from his early days in Indianapolis. Ivy league educated and an analytics darling now paired again with Depodesta the Browns will be heavy into analytics and efficiency in their decision making.
 
Alex Van Pelt Hired  
On January 29th 2020, the Browns hired former Cincinnati Bengals' quarterbacks coach Alex Van Pelt as offensive coordinator. Van Pelt, who served as offensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills in 2009, replaced Todd Monken, who was not retained by Stefanski.
Nobody is quite sure who will be calling plays on game day, The one thing going for this hire is when Van Pelt was the QB Coach for Green Bay Aaron Rodgers was super angry about Van Pelt being fired so there is that.
 
Joe Woods Hired  
On February 7th 2020, the Browns hired former San Francisco 49ers' defensive backs coach Joe Woods as defensive coordinator. Woods, who previously served as the defensive coordinator for the Denver Broncos from 2017–18, replaced Steve Wilks, who was not retained by Stefanski
Woods is a man of mystery he has coached just about every scheme in existence and has given the ever popular "We will tailor our defense to our personnel" answer every time somebody tries to get anything out of him in regards to what he plans to run in Cleveland.
 
Free Agency
Players lost/cut
Player Position New Team
Joe Schobert LB Jacksonville
Christian Kirksey LB Green Bay
Eric Kush G Las Vegas
Demetrius Harris TE Chicago
T.J. Carrie CB Indianapolis
Damarious Randall S Las Vegas
Greg Robinson T Prison
Rickey Seals Jones TE Kansas City
Adarius Taylor LB Released
Morgan Burnett S Released
Eric Murray S Houston
Going into the 2019 season the Browns defense had a lack of quality depth at LB and Safety. So naturally the first thing the Browns do in Free Agency is let go the remaining veteran players at LB and Safety. I can't say for certain this was a bad thing as you will see below.
 
Top Losses
 
Joe Shobert LB - Was a tackling machine and rare pro bowler on this team, however too many of those tackles were made 8-10 yards downfield on run plays. His coverage skills were raw as well so I get not paying him big money.
Christian Kirksey LB - This one hurts a bit not due to production on the field as Kirko was hurt a lot! But more so as he was that beloved master of the Dawg Check and was a great team guy.
Damarious Randall S - A solid player who the Browns converted back to Safety but was always a bit of a headcase. He will be remembered best as the player who intercepted a Bengals pass and handed the ball to Hue Jackson on the Bengals sideline.
 
Players Signed/Brought Back
Player Position Contract
Kareem Hunt RB 1yr $3.25M
Case Keenum QB 3yr $18M
Andy Janovich FB Trade w/Broncos
Jack Conklin T 3yr $42M
Austin Hooper TE 4yr $44M
Karl Joseph S 1yr $2.5M
Andrew Billings DL 1yr $3.5M
Kevin Johnson CB 1yr $3.5M
Andrew Sendejo S 1yr $2.5M
Evan Brown C No Details
Donovan Olumba CB No Details
JoJo Natson WR 1yr $1M
BJ Goodson LB 1yr $2.4M
Chris Hubbard T Restructured
Adrian Clayborn EDGE 1yr $2.4M
Olivier Vernon EDGE Restructured
Myles Garrett EDGE So Much Money
Rashard Higgins WR 1yr 910k
 
Man this is a list... Ok so there were very few holes on Offense going into Free Agency but the ones that stood out were both tackles and depth at tight end. The Browns ultimately solved one tackle spot and TE really early in Free Agency with what most considered the best available players at their position.
On the Defensive side we had a open call for any experienced body who wanted to take a 1 year prove it deal. So much depth added via players that fell through the cracks on their former team.
 
Top Signings
 
Jack Conklin RT - The top right tackle in free agency, had a nice season for the titans after coming off a major injury the year before. Can be a All-Pro caliber RT if healthy. Really filled a huge need.
Austin Hooper TE - or "HooooooP" As the falcons fans tell me I am to call him. Filled a big need for reliable catches at the TE position. With David Njoku in the dog house, unable to catch anything, and now asking for a trade this is a big get for the Browns.
Andy Janovich FB - By far my personal favorite signing. Acquired in a trade with the Broncos he is one of the best pure Fullbacks left in the game. I expect him to be a Fan Favorite quickly. There is nothing more that Cleveland Fans adore more than elevating a former Broncos fullback to Legendary status.(See Peyton Hillis)
Case Keenum - Browns fans all hope that the Baker Mayfield of last year was a product of really bad coaching, however Keenum can win games in the NFL and is a familiar face to new coach Stefanski having had a career year with Minnesota with Stefanski as his QB coach. I am much more confident in having Keenum as the backup than Garrett Gilbert.
New Contracts - The Browns have ensured Myles Garrett will be a Brown for a long while, placed a 2nd round tender on former rushing champ Kareem hunt, and after briefly flirting with Clowney decided to restructure Olivier Vernon to a much better contract number befitting his oft injured yet surprisingly productive season.
 
 
Draft - Cribbed from u/Marzman315 with permission who did a very excellent defending the draft and I agree with it in it's entirety. The Grades are mine.
 
Round Player Position
1.10 Jedrick Wills T
2.44 Grant Delpit S
3.88 Jordan Elliott DT
3.97 Jacob Phillips ILB
4.115 Harrison Bryant TE
5.160 Nick Harris C
6.187 Donovan Peoples-Jones WR
 
1.10 - Jedrick Wills Jr., Offensive Tackle Alabama Grade A  
As expected, the Browns used the tenth overall pick on a tackle. The tackle turned out to be Jedrick Wills Jr., blindside blocker for Tua Tagovailoa. The former four star high school prospect started all 28 games for the Crimson Tide over his sophomore and and junior years. As a second team All-American and first team All-SEC player, he paved the way for Alabama's elite offense with his quick feet, smooth redirection, extremely powerful anchor and strength, and absolutely punishing punch.  
This pick was overwhelmingly approved of by analysts both internally and externally. Joe Thomas released a reaction video that was enthusiastic to say the least. He made it clear that Wills was his ideal target for the Browns at 10th overall. The front office and coaching staff made it known that Wills was their priority target going into the draft, and were entertaining the possibility of trading up for him, but ultimately the draft board fell their way and they got their man at 10.  
The only negative to the drafting of Wills is that he has only played right tackle in his college career, and given the free agent signing of right tackle Jack Conklin, Wills is going to be expected to transition to left tackle to start his NFL career. Joe Thomas also gave input on this, and stated that while the transition is difficult it is easier to do early in your career, and that he would personally take Wills under his wing and mentor him. Between Joe Thomas's guidance and the coaching of veteran offensive line coach Bill Callahan, not to mention the phenomenal talent of Wills, the transition should be doable for Wills with a minimum of serious difficulty. The protection of franchise QB Baker Mayfield is of paramount importance, and this selection reflects that.
 
2.44 - Grant Delpit, Safety LSU Grade A  
Most Browns fans anticipated that a safety specializing in coverage would be a priority target on day 2. With replacing Damarious Randall a necessity, the Browns zeroed in on LSU standout Grant Delpit. Boasting phenomenal range, excellent ball skills, and tremendous athleticism for the position, he brings an impressive skill set to the team.
Once considered a top 15 to top 20 pick, injuries and questions about tackling caused his value to drop a bit over the season. His broken clavicle in 2018 likely led to a hesitation in committing fully to tackles, and his production in that sense dropped in 2019. Despite some questions about open field tackling, Delpit's football IQ, versatility, and ball skills are enough to excite Browns fans into thinking that they found a solid starter.
 
3.88 - Jordan Elliot, Defensive Tackle Missouri Grade B  
In a post draft interview, Browns Chief Strategist Paul DePodesta revealed that obtaining 2021 draft capital was a priority coming into the draft. Depth along the defensive line has been an issue for the Browns for some time. Both of these issues were addressed with the Browns first pick in the third round.
Jordan Elliot is well known in the scouting community for being the darling prospect of Pro Football Focus, who consistently rated him as a first round prospect. While he lacks some power and length, he has a lightning quick first step and fluid pass rushing skills. His skill set doesn't exactly project him to be an every down player, but he can be a strong gap penetrating 3T rotating along the Browns defensive line.
 
3.97 - Jacob Phillips, Linebacker LSU Grade C Minus
Joe Shobert led the Browns in tackles in two of the last three seasons. Replacing that production was certainly a concern of the Browns. Phillips is an athletic linebacker that led a powerhouse LSU team in tackles. He is strong against the run, and plays fast and strong with solid instincts.
Phillips likely may not replace Shobert's pass coverage, as coverage skills were a clear negative on Phillips' scouting report. But as far as reliable tackling goes Phillips can contribute early, especially on special teams and base defense.
 
4.115 - Harrison Bryant, Tight End Florida Atlantic Grade A
Kevin Stefanski's offense notably uses multiple tight end sets and 12 personnel. Harrison Bryant is a very exciting receiving threat at the TE position. He projects mainly as a depth player behind Austin Hooper and David Njoku (if he remains on the team) currently while he develops his overall game, but he likely sees the field a bit as a rookie. He doesn't bring much to the table as far as blocking goes, but there is absolutely some exciting upside here.
 
5.160 - Nick Harris, Guard/Center Washington Grade C
While the Browns O-line was the subject of well deserved criticisms in 2019, the interior of the line was quietly fairly solid. Left guard Joel Bitonio is among the best in the league at his position and Center JC Tretter is a pro bowl caliber player. Wyatt Teller was unspectacular but played well enough to bring a bit of stability to the position. Lacking at the interior o-line was any sort of depth.
With years of experience at guard and center, Nick Harris will add solid depth and may compete with Teller for the starting right guard spot. He is a smart and nimble pass blocker, and while he doesn't have ideal size for the position (6'1" 300 LB) he uses his low center of gravity effectively to secure a solid base.
 
6.187 - Donovan Peoples-Jones, Wide Receiver Michigan Grade A (upside)
Wide receiver was sneakily a bit of a need for the Browns going into the 2020 draft. Odell Beckham Jr and Jarvis Landry are among the best 1/2 starters in the NFL, but after them the depth chart is thin.
Peoples-Jones is a perfect prospect to gamble on. He showed flashes of phenomenal play while at Michigan, and was considered at one point to be a future first round pick and NFL star. Injuries and abysmal QB play severely hindered his college career. His production did not come close to matching his talent. He is athletic, runs clean routes, gets solid seperation, and is good with the ball in his hands. There is a lot of talent here that can be developed.
 
Undrafted Free Agents:
Soloman Ajayi, Linebacker, Liberty
Elijah Benton, Safety, Liberty
Ja'Marcus Bradley, Wide Receiver, Louisiana
Tony Brown, Wide Receiver, Colorado
Kevin Davidson, Quarterback, Princeton
Drake Dorbeck, Offensive Tackle/Guard, Southern Mississippi
A.J. Green, Cornerback, Oklahoma State
Brian Herrion, Runningback, Georgia
Jameson Houston, Cornerback, Baylor
Benny LeMay, Runningback, Charlotte
Jovante Moffit, Safety, Middle Tennessee
George Obinna, Defensive End, Sacremento State
Alex Taylor, Offensive Tackle, South Carolina State
Jeffrey Whatley, Defensive Tackle, South Alabama
Nate Wieting, Tight End, Iowa
 
Going Forward:
You will have a hard time finding a Browns fan who did not love this draft. They filled all of their pressing needs without reaching, were savvy navigating the board with trades, and acquired 2021 draft picks. The Browns earned one of only four A+ grades from PFF. While the roster is not without some holes, particularly at linebacker, this is a team that is built to compete. With improvements on the offense that will hopefully come with better coaching and a brand new O-line, the Browns are absolutely in a better position this year than last
 
 
Projected 53 Man Roster (starters in bold):
OFFENSE:
QB - Baker Mayfield, Case Keenum (2)
RB - Nick Chubb, Kareem Hunt, Dontrelle Hilliard, (5)
FB - Andy Janovich (6)
WR - Odell Beckham Jr., Jarvis Landry, Rashard Higgins, Taywan Taylor, Donovan Peoples-Jones, JoJo Natson (12)
TE - Austin Hooper, David Njoku, Harrison Bryant (15)
OT - Jedrick Wills Jr. (LT), Jack Conklin (RT), Chris Hubbard, Drew Forbes (19)
OG - Joel Bitonio (LG), Wyatt Teller (RG), Colby Gossett (22)
C - JC Tretter, Nick Harris (24)
 
DEFENSE:
DE - Myles Garrett, Olivier Vernon, Adrian Clayborn, Chad Thomas (28)
DT - Sheldon Richardson, Larry Ogunjobi, Andrew Billings, Jordan Elliot, Daniel Ekuale (33)
LB - Mack Wilson, Sione Takitaki, BJ Goodson, Jacob Phillips, Jermaine Grace, Tae Davis (39)
CB - Denzel Ward, Greedy Williams, Kevin Johnson, Terrance Mitchell, Donnie Lewis Jr., Tavierre Thomas (45)
SS - Karl Joseph, J.T. Hassell (47)
FS - Grant Delpit, Andrew Sandejo, Sheldrick Redwine (50)
SPECIALISTS
K - Austin Seibert (51)
P - Jamie "Scottish Hammer" Gillan (52)
LS - Charley Hughlett (53)
 
 
What to expect in 2020
 
QB Grade: Incomplete
Baker Mayfield - This is the wildcard for the entire team. There is arguably not a better supporting cast in the league for a Quarterback. Assuming at minimum competent coaching there is no excuse for Mayfield going into year 3. There will be a long leash I am sure but Keenum is waiting in the wings if Mayfield looks like he did last year as opposed to the record setter he was in year 1.  
As goes the arm of Mayfield so goes the Browns Playoff hopes.
 
RB Grade: A+++
Nick Chubb - Quiet, professional, will run you over and laugh at your pitiful tackle attempts. Nick Chubb is a beast, lead the league in yards after contact and nearly won the rushing title. In this new RB friendly system with an improved O-Line and an actual fullback Chubb is going to eat.
 
Kareem Hunt - It's not often that your backup running back is also a league rushing champion. Last year after serving his suspension he came in and made quite a few spectacular plays in the passing game and showed he still had that spark in the running game. This one Two punch is going to be fun to watch!
 
Pass Catchers WTE Grade: A
Goodness where to start... This might be an unpopular take but Jarvis Landry is the Best WR on this team and a top 5 pass catcher in the league. He has the most catches ALL TIME in a players first 6 seasons in the league. No longer relegated to slot duties as he was in Miami he had is best year in 2019.
 
Both Landry and OBJ went over 1000 yards last year which is stunning to me because it felt like both were under utilized all year long. With an increased emphasis on the running game and a deceptive scheme there should be a lot of wide open receivers for the Browns this year
 
Adding in a third down catch machine in Austin Hooper oh my.. The room is stacked.
 
Offensive Line Grade: B Minus
The OL has been a major issue at the tackle spot since Joe Thomas retired. It now feels like we have the complete package assuming Wills can make the transition to LT in this super strange offseason. The interior is still super solid. There will be a lot riding on the rookie.
 
Defensive Line A Minus
Oh noooooo MYLES!!!! How different would 2019 have been had Myles Garrett kept his cool. Fresh off signing a new mega deal Myles Garrett needs to be the great pass rusher he has been in his first few seasons. He was averaging a sack per game before the suspension and should easily go into double digit sacks this season as well.
Olivier Vernon when healthy is a QB pressure machine but he has problems staying on the field. When he is playing though He and Myles make a great bookend.
The interior is solid with Sheldon Richardson and Larry O, in the middle. This will probably be Richardson's last year with the Browns so I expect him to show out to push for that one last contract.
 
Linebackers Grade: I was told there would be no math
Do I believe in Mack Wilson? Ask me on a day he writes a fired up hype tweet and I will say he is going to be a stud. In the quiet times though I think to myself boy I hope the opposing team does not have a decent tight end because our LB core is going to get burned. I don't know what to think of the rest of the room as it is totally shuffled. Maybe Takitaki is something more than a special teamer? Was B.J. Goodson a diamond waiting to be polished?
The Browns need Takitaki, Wilson, and Phillips to grow up fast in this defense. Goodson has been a part-time player in his career and should have the opportunity to get more playing time than he has had to date in his career. With a one-year prove-it deal, Goodson has the motivation to show that he deserves a multi-year deal.
This is by far on paper the weak point of this team.
 
Cornerback Grade: B
This is the Ward and Greedy Show. Ward is occasionally dinged up but most of the time he is a shut down corner. Super young and is a willing tackler if a bit reckless in his form. Ward has the potential to be a top 5 CB in the league.
Greedy Williams had a decent season on the other side when he got into the game but it is his spot full time now and he needs to step up. The talk when he was drafted was he could not tackle. (Much like Delpit this year) but he showed he was more than willing to tackle and even come up and rush the passer and play the run when needed. With Ward on the other side he is going to be targeted a LOT.
 
Safety Grade: D
Who the hell knows.. Really. I know I said that Linebacker was the weak point but man Safety is as much of a question. Karl Joseph is a Thumper and with that he ends up injured a bit. Delpit has huge potential but is a rookie at FS and but supposedly has tackling issues. Outside of those two you have Sendejo in his 11th year in the league and Sheldrick Redwine who was a beast in college but has yet to really prove himself in the league.
Here is hoping Delpit lives up to his potential because man this is a thin group.
 
Specialists Grade: B
Scottish Hammer That is all... The Punter might be the best form tackler on the team hopefully he does not have to do that this season. Or we can stick him in at Linebacker.
But seriously things stabilized with two rookie kickers last year and they both look serviceable. Jojo Natson was brought in to do one thing and that is to return kicks.
 
 
Training Camp Battles
 
On Offense there is very little up for grabs maybe who wins the 3rd WR spot but given Higgins relationship with Mayfield it is his job to lose.
On Defense a lot of the battle is going to be who shows up at LB and Safety as discussed above. there are slim pickings at both positions and really the only people who seem to be safe are Mack Wilson just due to the playing time he got last season and Karl Joseph just based upon his experience in the league.
 
 
Scheme Descriptions
 
Offense: Kevin Stefanski as Minnesota’s offensive coordinator in 2019 produced an offense determined to run the ball and crush teams with play-action. Under the watchful eye of consultant Gary Kubiak he installed a Wide Zone blocking scheme that is time tested and very OL and RB friendly. It is considered a Run first offense which should play right into the Browns strengths. If Mayfield can tighten up the play action fake game the Wide outs should feast as well.
 
Defense - Who knows? I am not even sure Joe Woods knows yet what type of Defense the Browns will run. During his tenure as the Denver Broncos defensive coordinator he ran a Base 3-4 Under defense. During his time with the Minnesota Vikings the team ran a base 4-3 which is also the case for the San Francisco 49ers defense this past season.
When asked Woods usually replies with something along the lines of "it's a secret"
Based on the Browns current roster,the preference would be an attacking 4-3 scheme given the strength on the defensive line and questionable linebacker core.
 
 
Season Predictions
It is an impossible task to predict a Browns season. Typically you could say 3 - 5 wins and chances are you would be right. This season with a new head coach, no preseason, maybe no training camp who the hell knows.
So instead of going game by game I am going to make some bold predictions.
  • The Browns will make the playoffs
  • Nick Chubb will win the rushing title
  • Jarvis Landry and OBJ will both go over 1000 yards again
  • The Browns will split all of the division games
  • The Steelers, Ravens, and Art Modell still suck
  • Final Record 10-6 with a Wild Card game win
 
 
Thank You's and Final Thoughts
If you read all this you are a better person than I. Big thanks to u/Marzman315 for lending me the draft section. Also a hearty Woof Woof to u/Usuallyrelevant who keeps us entertained over at Browns
Also the crew at LakeErieBros for sharing together our collective misery.
And finally I want to thank the Bull City Browns Backers in Durham NC for being awesome and showing up to every game with hope in your heart and unwavering dedication.

I did not hear from the non fan for the post so maybe we can add it later.

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2020.07.23 15:59 goingsouthhiker 2020 Offseason Review Series - Cleveland Browns

Cleveland Browns

Division: AFC North
Record: 6 - 10
Introduction
Hey everyone u/goingsouthhiker here to provide you more information than you ever wanted to know about the Cleveland Browns. My first distinct memory as a child is my fathers face in stunned silence as Ernest Byner fumbled at the goaline. I have been gifted through some sick hereditary defect a lifelong love of the Browns. so here you go.
 
Coaching Changes/GM Changes
 
Freddie Kitchens Fired  
On December 29th, 2019, the Browns fired head coach Freddie Kitchens. This is the culmination of a coaching hire that seemed to be entirely based upon folksy blue collar catch phrases “if you don’t wear brown and orange, you don’t matter” and a good relationship with Baker Mayfield.  
Some of Freddie's greatest hits included
  • 4th and 9 - Draw Play
  • Madden Style 5 WR streaks from your own goal line
  • Send out the punt team on 4th-and-11 down 17 points in the fourth quarter to the New England Patriots, only to change his mind and take a deliberate false start rather than burn a timeout.
  • 4th and 1 on the goal line and not have Nick Chubb on the field
 
John Dorsey Fired  
On December 31st, 2019, the Browns and general manager John Dorsey mutually agreed to part ways after an up and down tenure that brought in a lot of talent but ultimately the decision to hire Kitchens and some questionable high draft picks sank him.
 
Kevin Stefanski Hired  
On January 13th, 2020, the Browns hired former Minnesota Vikings' offensive coordinator Kevin Stefanski as head coach. This is another first time head coach hire for the browns after an exhaustive coaching search. This hire is the one Paul Depodesta of Moneyball Fame banged the table for prior to the promotion of Kitchens so ultimately the nerds won the battle a year too late.
 
Andrew Berry Hired  
On January 27th, 2020, the Browns hired former Philadelphia Eagles' vice president of football operations Andrew Berry as general manager. Berry previously served as the Browns' vice president of player personnel from 2016–18 under Sashi Brown. At age 32, Berry became the youngest general manager in NFL history.
Berry has been considered in league circles as the next great rising front office star even from his early days in Indianapolis. Ivy league educated and an analytics darling now paired again with Depodesta the Browns will be heavy into analytics and efficiency in their decision making.
 
Alex Van Pelt Hired  
On January 29th 2020, the Browns hired former Cincinnati Bengals' quarterbacks coach Alex Van Pelt as offensive coordinator. Van Pelt, who served as offensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills in 2009, replaced Todd Monken, who was not retained by Stefanski.
Nobody is quite sure who will be calling plays on game day, The one thing going for this hire is when Van Pelt was the QB Coach for Green Bay Aaron Rodgers was super angry about Van Pelt being fired so there is that.
 
Joe Woods Hired  
On February 7th 2020, the Browns hired former San Francisco 49ers' defensive backs coach Joe Woods as defensive coordinator. Woods, who previously served as the defensive coordinator for the Denver Broncos from 2017–18, replaced Steve Wilks, who was not retained by Stefanski
Woods is a man of mystery he has coached just about every scheme in existence and has given the ever popular "We will tailor our defense to our personnel" answer every time somebody tries to get anything out of him in regards to what he plans to run in Cleveland.
 
Free Agency
Players lost/cut
Player Position New Team
Joe Schobert LB Jacksonville
Christian Kirksey LB Green Bay
Eric Kush G Las Vegas
Demetrius Harris TE Chicago
T.J. Carrie CB Indianapolis
Damarious Randall S Las Vegas
Greg Robinson T Prison
Rickey Seals Jones TE Kansas City
Adarius Taylor LB Released
Morgan Burnett S Released
Eric Murray S Houston
Going into the 2019 season the Browns defense had a lack of quality depth at LB and Safety. So naturally the first thing the Browns do in Free Agency is let go the remaining veteran players at LB and Safety. I can't say for certain this was a bad thing as you will see below.
 
Top Losses
 
Joe Shobert LB - Was a tackling machine and rare pro bowler on this team, however too many of those tackles were made 8-10 yards downfield on run plays. His coverage skills were raw as well so I get not paying him big money.
Christian Kirksey LB - This one hurts a bit not due to production on the field as Kirko was hurt a lot! But more so as he was that beloved master of the Dawg Check and was a great team guy.
Damarious Randall S - A solid player who the Browns converted back to Safety but was always a bit of a headcase. He will be remembered best as the player who intercepted a Bengals pass and handed the ball to Hue Jackson on the Bengals sideline.
 
Players Signed/Brought Back
Player Position Contract
Kareem Hunt RB 1yr $3.25M
Case Keenum QB 3yr $18M
Andy Janovich FB Trade w/Broncos
Jack Conklin T 3yr $42M
Austin Hooper TE 4yr $44M
Karl Joseph S 1yr $2.5M
Andrew Billings DL 1yr $3.5M
Kevin Johnson CB 1yr $3.5M
Andrew Sendejo S 1yr $2.5M
Evan Brown C No Details
Donovan Olumba CB No Details
JoJo Natson WR 1yr $1M
BJ Goodson LB 1yr $2.4M
Chris Hubbard T Restructured
Adrian Clayborn EDGE 1yr $2.4M
Olivier Vernon EDGE Restructured
Myles Garrett EDGE So Much Money
Rashard Higgins WR 1yr 910k
 
Man this is a list... Ok so there were very few holes on Offense going into Free Agency but the ones that stood out were both tackles and depth at tight end. The Browns ultimately solved one tackle spot and TE really early in Free Agency with what most considered the best available players at their position.
On the Defensive side we had a open call for any experienced body who wanted to take a 1 year prove it deal. So much depth added via players that fell through the cracks on their former team.
 
Top Signings
 
Jack Conklin RT - The top right tackle in free agency, had a nice season for the titans after coming off a major injury the year before. Can be a All-Pro caliber RT if healthy. Really filled a huge need.
Austin Hooper TE - or "HooooooP" As the falcons fans tell me I am to call him. Filled a big need for reliable catches at the TE position. With David Njoku in the dog house, unable to catch anything, and now asking for a trade this is a big get for the Browns.
Andy Janovich FB - By far my personal favorite signing. Acquired in a trade with the Broncos he is one of the best pure Fullbacks left in the game. I expect him to be a Fan Favorite quickly. There is nothing more that Cleveland Fans adore than elevating a former Broncos fullback to Legendary status.(See Peyton Hillis)
Case Keenum - Browns fans all hope that the Baker Mayfield of last year was a product of really bad coaching, however Keenum can win games in the NFL and is a familiar face to new coach Stefanski having had a career year with Minnesota with Stefanski as his QB coach. I am much more confident in having Keenum as the backup than Garrett Gilbert.
New Contracts - The Browns have ensured Myles Garrett will be a Brown for a long while, placed a 2nd round tender on former rushing champ Kareem hunt, and after briefly flirting with Clowney decided to restructure Olivier Vernon to a much better contract number befitting his oft injured yet surprisingly productive season.
 
 
Draft - Cribbed from u/Marzman315 with permission who did a very excellent defending the draft and I agree with it in it's entirety. The Grades are mine.
 
Round Player Position
1.10 Jedrick Wills T
2.44 Grant Delpit S
3.88 Jordan Elliott DT
3.97 Jacob Phillips ILB
4.115 Harrison Bryant TE
5.160 Nick Harris C
6.187 Donovan Peoples-Jones WR
 
1.10 - Jedrick Wills Jr., Offensive Tackle Alabama Grade A  
As expected, the Browns used the tenth overall pick on a tackle. The tackle turned out to be Jedrick Wills Jr., blindside blocker for Tua Tagovailoa. The former four star high school prospect started all 28 games for the Crimson Tide over his sophomore and and junior years. As a second team All-American and first team All-SEC player, he paved the way for Alabama's elite offense with his quick feet, smooth redirection, extremely powerful anchor and strength, and absolutely punishing punch.  
This pick was overwhelmingly approved of by analysts both internally and externally. Joe Thomas released a reaction video that was enthusiastic to say the least. He made it clear that Wills was his ideal target for the Browns at 10th overall. The front office and coaching staff made it known that Wills was their priority target going into the draft, and were entertaining the possibility of trading up for him, but ultimately the draft board fell their way and they got their man at 10.  
The only negative to the drafting of Wills is that he has only played right tackle in his college career, and given the free agent signing of right tackle Jack Conklin, Wills is going to be expected to transition to left tackle to start his NFL career. Joe Thomas also gave input on this, and stated that while the transition is difficult it is easier to do early in your career, and that he would personally take Wills under his wing and mentor him. Between Joe Thomas's guidance and the coaching of veteran offensive line coach Bill Callahan, not to mention the phenomenal talent of Wills, the transition should be doable for Wills with a minimum of serious difficulty. The protection of franchise QB Baker Mayfield is of paramount importance, and this selection reflects that.
 
2.44 - Grant Delpit, Safety LSU Grade A  
Most Browns fans anticipated that a safety specializing in coverage would be a priority target on day 2. With replacing Damarious Randall a necessity, the Browns zeroed in on LSU standout Grant Delpit. Boasting phenomenal range, excellent ball skills, and tremendous athleticism for the position, he brings an impressive skill set to the team.
Once considered a top 15 to top 20 pick, injuries and questions about tackling caused his value to drop a bit over the season. His broken clavicle in 2018 likely led to a hesitation in committing fully to tackles, and his production in that sense dropped in 2019. Despite some questions about open field tackling, Delpit's football IQ, versatility, and ball skills are enough to excite Browns fans into thinking that they found a solid starter.
 
3.88 - Jordan Elliot, Defensive Tackle Missouri Grade B  
In a post draft interview, Browns Chief Strategist Paul DePodesta revealed that obtaining 2021 draft capital was a priority coming into the draft. Depth along the defensive line has been an issue for the Browns for some time. Both of these issues were addressed with the Browns first pick in the third round.
Jordan Elliot is well known in the scouting community for being the darling prospect of Pro Football Focus, who consistently rated him as a first round prospect. While he lacks some power and length, he has a lightning quick first step and fluid pass rushing skills. His skill set doesn't exactly project him to be an every down player, but he can be a strong gap penetrating 3T rotating along the Browns defensive line.
 
3.97 - Jacob Phillips, Linebacker LSU Grade C Minus
Joe Shobert led the Browns in tackles in two of the last three seasons. Replacing that production was certainly a concern of the Browns. Phillips is an athletic linebacker that led a powerhouse LSU team in tackles. He is strong against the run, and plays fast and strong with solid instincts.
Phillips likely may not replace Shobert's pass coverage, as coverage skills were a clear negative on Phillips' scouting report. But as far as reliable tackling goes Phillips can contribute early, especially on special teams and base defense.
 
4.115 - Harrison Bryant, Tight End Florida Atlantic Grade A
Kevin Stefanski's offense notably uses multiple tight end sets and 12 personnel. Harrison Bryant is a very exciting receiving threat at the TE position. He projects mainly as a depth player behind Austin Hooper and David Njoku (if he remains on the team) currently while he develops his overall game, but he likely sees the field a bit as a rookie. He doesn't bring much to the table as far as blocking goes, but there is absolutely some exciting upside here.
 
5.160 - Nick Harris, Guard/Center Washington Grade C
While the Browns O-line was the subject of well deserved criticisms in 2019, the interior of the line was quietly fairly solid. Left guard Joel Bitonio is among the best in the league at his position and Center JC Tretter is a pro bowl caliber player. Wyatt Teller was unspectacular but played well enough to bring a bit of stability to the position. Lacking at the interior o-line was any sort of depth.
With years of experience at guard and center, Nick Harris will add solid depth and may compete with Teller for the starting right guard spot. He is a smart and nimble pass blocker, and while he doesn't have ideal size for the position (6'1" 300 LB) he uses his low center of gravity effectively to secure a solid base.
 
6.187 - Donovan Peoples-Jones, Wide Receiver Michigan Grade A (upside)
Wide receiver was sneakily a bit of a need for the Browns going into the 2020 draft. Odell Beckham Jr and Jarvis Landry are among the best 1/2 starters in the NFL, but after them the depth chart is thin.
Peoples-Jones is a perfect prospect to gamble on. He showed flashes of phenomenal play while at Michigan, and was considered at one point to be a future first round pick and NFL star. Injuries and abysmal QB play severely hindered his college career. His production did not come close to matching his talent. He is athletic, runs clean routes, gets solid separation, and is good with the ball in his hands. There is a lot of talent here that can be developed.
 
Undrafted Free Agents:
Soloman Ajayi, Linebacker, Liberty
Elijah Benton, Safety, Liberty
Ja'Marcus Bradley, Wide Receiver, Louisiana
Tony Brown, Wide Receiver, Colorado
Kevin Davidson, Quarterback, Princeton
Drake Dorbeck, Offensive Tackle/Guard, Southern Mississippi
A.J. Green, Cornerback, Oklahoma State
Brian Herrion, Runningback, Georgia
Jameson Houston, Cornerback, Baylor
Benny LeMay, Runningback, Charlotte
Jovante Moffit, Safety, Middle Tennessee
George Obinna, Defensive End, Sacremento State
Alex Taylor, Offensive Tackle, South Carolina State
Jeffrey Whatley, Defensive Tackle, South Alabama
Nate Wieting, Tight End, Iowa
 
Going Forward:
You will have a hard time finding a Browns fan who did not love this draft. They filled all of their pressing needs without reaching, were savvy navigating the board with trades, and acquired 2021 draft picks. The Browns earned one of only four A+ grades from PFF. While the roster is not without some holes, particularly at linebacker, this is a team that is built to compete. With improvements on the offense that will hopefully come with better coaching and a brand new O-line, the Browns are absolutely in a better position this year than last
 
 
Projected 53 Man Roster (starters in bold):
OFFENSE:
QB - Baker Mayfield, Case Keenum (2)
RB - Nick Chubb, Kareem Hunt, Dontrelle Hilliard, (5)
FB - Andy Janovich (6)
WR - Odell Beckham Jr., Jarvis Landry, Rashard Higgins, Taywan Taylor, Donovan Peoples-Jones, JoJo Natson (12)
TE - Austin Hooper, David Njoku, Harrison Bryant (15)
OT - Jedrick Wills Jr. (LT), Jack Conklin (RT), Chris Hubbard, Drew Forbes (19)
OG - Joel Bitonio (LG), Wyatt Teller (RG), Colby Gossett (22)
C - JC Tretter, Nick Harris (24)
 
DEFENSE:
DE - Myles Garrett, Olivier Vernon, Adrian Clayborn, Chad Thomas (28)
DT - Sheldon Richardson, Larry Ogunjobi, Andrew Billings, Jordan Elliot, Daniel Ekuale (33)
LB - Mack Wilson, Sione Takitaki, BJ Goodson, Jacob Phillips, Jermaine Grace, Tae Davis (39)
CB - Denzel Ward, Greedy Williams, Kevin Johnson, Terrance Mitchell, Donnie Lewis Jr., Tavierre Thomas (45)
SS - Karl Joseph, J.T. Hassell (47)
FS - Grant Delpit, Andrew Sandejo, Sheldrick Redwine (50)
SPECIALISTS
K - Austin Seibert (51)
P - Jamie "Scottish Hammer" Gillan (52)
LS - Charley Hughlett (53)
 
 
What to expect in 2020
 
QB Grade: Incomplete
Baker Mayfield - This is the wildcard for the entire team. There is arguably not a better supporting cast in the league for a Quarterback. Assuming at minimum competent coaching there is no excuse for Mayfield going into year 3. There will be a long leash I am sure but Keenum is waiting in the wings if Mayfield looks like he did last year as opposed to the record setter he was in year 1.  
As goes the arm of Mayfield so goes the Browns Playoff hopes.
 
RB Grade: A+++
Nick Chubb - Quiet, professional, will run you over and laugh at your pitiful tackle attempts. Nick Chubb is a beast, lead the league in yards after contact and nearly won the rushing title. In this new RB friendly system with an improved O-Line and an actual fullback Chubb is going to eat.
 
Kareem Hunt - It's not often that your backup running back is also a league rushing champion. Last year after serving his suspension he came in and made quite a few spectacular plays in the passing game and showed he still had that spark in the running game. This one Two punch is going to be fun to watch!
 
Pass Catchers WTE Grade: A
Goodness where to start... This might be an unpopular take but Jarvis Landry is the Best WR on this team and a top 5 pass catcher in the league. He has the most catches ALL TIME in a players first 6 seasons in the league. No longer relegated to slot duties as he was in Miami he had is best year in 2019.
 
Both Landry and OBJ went over 1000 yards last year which is stunning to me because it felt like both were under utilized all year long. With an increased emphasis on the running game and a deceptive scheme there should be a lot of wide open receivers for the Browns this year
Adding in a third down catch machine in Austin Hooper oh my.. The room is stacked.
 
Offensive Line Grade: B Minus
The OL has been a major issue at the tackle spot since Joe Thomas retired. It now feels like the Browns have the complete package assuming Wills can make the transition to LT in this super strange offseason. The interior is still super solid. There will be a lot riding on the rookie.
 
Defensive Line A Minus
Oh noooooo MYLES!!!! How different would 2019 have been had Myles Garrett kept his cool. Fresh off signing a new mega deal Myles Garrett needs to be the great pass rusher he has been in his first few seasons. He was averaging a sack per game before the suspension and should easily go into double digit sacks this season as well.
Olivier Vernon when healthy is a QB pressure machine but he has problems staying on the field. When he is playing though He and Myles make a great bookend.
The interior is solid with Sheldon Richardson and Larry O, in the middle. This will probably be Richardson's last year with the Browns so I expect him to show out to push for that one last contract.
 
Linebackers Grade: I was told there would be no math
Do I believe in Mack Wilson? Ask me on a day he writes a fired up hype tweet and I will say he is going to be a stud. In the quiet times though I think to myself boy I hope the opposing team does not have a decent tight end because our LB core is going to get burned. I don't know what to think of the rest of the room as it is totally shuffled. Maybe Takitaki is something more than a special teamer? Was B.J. Goodson a diamond waiting to be polished?
The Browns need Takitaki, Wilson, and Phillips to grow up fast in this defense. Goodson has been a part-time player in his career and should have the opportunity to get more playing time than he has had to date in his career. With a one-year prove-it deal, Goodson has the motivation to show that he deserves a multi-year deal.
This is by far on paper the weak point of this team.
 
Cornerback Grade: B
This is the Ward and Greedy Show. Ward is occasionally dinged up but most of the time he is a shut down corner. Super young and is a willing tackler if a bit reckless in his form. Ward has the potential to be a top 5 CB in the league.
Greedy Williams had a decent season on the other side when he got into the game but it is his spot full time now and he needs to step up. The talk when he was drafted was he could not tackle. (Much like Delpit this year) but he showed he was more than willing to tackle and even come up and rush the passer and play the run when needed. With Ward on the other side he is going to be targeted a LOT.
 
Safety Grade: D
Who the hell knows.. Really. I know I said that Linebacker was the weak point but man Safety is as much of a question. Karl Joseph is a Thumper and with that he ends up injured a bit. Delpit has huge potential but is a rookie at FS and supposedly has tackling issues. Outside of those two you have Sendejo in his 11th year in the league and Sheldrick Redwine who was a beast in college but has yet to really prove himself in the league.
Here is hoping Delpit lives up to his potential because man this is a thin group.
 
Specialists Grade: B
Scottish Hammer That is all... The Punter might be the best form tackler on the team hopefully he does not have to do that this season. Or we can stick him in at Linebacker.
But seriously things stabilized with two rookie kickers last year and they both look serviceable. Jojo Natson was brought in to do one thing and that is to return kicks.
 
 
Training Camp Battles
 
On Offense there is very little up for grabs maybe who wins the 3rd WR spot but given Higgins relationship with Mayfield it is his job to lose.
On Defense a lot of the battle is going to be who shows up at LB and Safety as discussed above. there are slim pickings at both positions and really the only people who seem to be safe are Mack Wilson just due to the playing time he got last season and Karl Joseph just based upon his experience in the league.
 
 
Scheme Descriptions
 
Offense: Kevin Stefanski as Minnesota’s offensive coordinator in 2019 produced an offense determined to run the ball and crush teams with play-action. Under the watchful eye of consultant Gary Kubiak he installed a Wide Zone blocking scheme that is time tested and very OL and RB friendly. It is considered a Run first offense which should play right into the Browns strengths. If Mayfield can tighten up the play action fake game the Wide outs should feast as well.
 
Defense - Who knows? I am not even sure Joe Woods knows yet what type of Defense the Browns will run. During his tenure as the Denver Broncos defensive coordinator he ran a Base 3-4 Under defense. During his time with the Minnesota Vikings the team ran a base 4-3 which is also the case for the San Francisco 49ers defense this past season.
When asked Woods usually replies with something along the lines of "it's a secret"
Based on the Browns current roster,the preference would be an attacking 4-3 scheme given the strength on the defensive line and questionable linebacker core.
 
 
Season Predictions
It is an impossible task to predict a Browns season. Typically you could say 3 - 5 wins and chances are you would be right. This season with a new head coach, no preseason, maybe no training camp who the hell knows. It is a weak schedule on paper.
So instead of going game by game I am going to make some bold predictions.
  • The Browns will make the playoffs
  • Nick Chubb will win the rushing title
  • Jarvis Landry and OBJ will both go over 1000 yards again
  • The Browns will split all of the division games
  • The Steelers, Ravens, and Art Modell still suck
  • Final Record 10-6 with a Wild Card game win
 
 
Thank You's and Final Thoughts
If you read all this you are a better person than I. Big thanks to u/Marzman315 for lending me the draft section. Also a hearty Woof Woof to u/Usuallyrelevant who keeps us entertained over at Browns
Also the crew at LakeErieBros for sharing together our collective misery.
And finally I want to thank the Bull City Browns Backers in Durham NC for being awesome and showing up to every game with hope in your heart and unwavering dedication.

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2020.01.13 22:05 KeezyLDN The history of 410

A history of 410 (formerly known as OC), from Brixton, south London.
The Guide to UK Drill has a short paragraph about 410, but for people new to UK Drill (or not from the area) I thought you might find their actual backstory interesting. It's also a demonstration of how deep the UK Drill scene actually goes.

Context

The gang originated in the Myatts Field Estate in Brixton (SW9). Their territory also includes the nearby Vassall Road and Cowley blocks. The area borders with Camberwell (SE5), Kennington (SE11) and Walworth (SE17) on one side, and with Angell Town Estate in Brixton on the other.
OC stood for 'Organised Crime' or 'One Chance'. The Myatts Field Estate was nicknamed 'Baghdad', and Myatts Field associated with the colour green.


Early 2000s

OC (Myatts Field Estate) were linked with PDC (Peel Dem Crew, from the neighbouring Angell Town Estate). They were also cool with a set called SMS (South Man Syndicate). Some of the earliest music from OC was collaborations with SMS and PDC artists:

2006

In this era, prominent OC members included Lox, Boost, Troopz, Syikes, Kearz, Komoshen, Mad Mikes, Rampz, Sleeks, Ratty and many others. At this time their main beef was with Peckham (Shoot Instant/PYG) and Black Prince (BYM) from Kennington.
Death of Tiny Alien
In 2006, a young OC member named Tiny Alien was murdered by BYM (now known as Kuku) at Black Prince, Kennington. He went to Kennington on a glide but ended up getting stabbed to death. His death made further media headlines after photos emerged of him posing with guns. He was only 15 when he died, and the younger generation's biggest loss.

2007

Younger members of OC (Tiny OC) became more active in music and in general. They included Young Troopz, Looch, Lil Dread, Killa Buzz, Madantz, Fire Armz and others.

The birth of GAS Gang - minor OC v GAS feud
In this era, the gangs PDC (Angell Town Estate) and MZ (Somerleyton Estate) disbanded. The youngers from Angell Town and Somerleyton, led by Ard Adz, formed GAS Gang. At first there was resistance from Myatts Field, and a feud started between the GAS (Angell Town/Somerleyton) members and OC (Myatts Field) members. In the following track, OC members take shots at GAS:
GAS members responded taking shots at OC, over the same beat:
After this, the Brixton olders squashed the beef between Myatts Field (OC) and Angell Town/Somerleyton (GAS), and they became united again. Kinda important because they were facing a united enemy: the Peckham Boys (SN1, SI and PYG).
Political Peak and Ard Adz made light of the 'Hard Bars' diss tracks by merging their verses into a new track called 'Beef Eww'. It had a music video but that got taken down.
GAS Gang became an alliance between the young members from Myatts Field, Angell Town, Loughborough and Somerleyton - four major estates of Brixton. The younger members from Myatts Field repped both OC and GAS. Older members from Myatts Field just repped OC.
GAS was represented by the colour green (for Myatts Field) and purple (for Angell Town):


2008

In early 2008, a prominent OC member Ratty was shot dead on the Myatts Field Estate, and the murder is unsolved to this day:

Peckham 'Gunshot Riddim' v Brixton 'Bullet Riddim'
The war between Brixton (OC/GAS) and Peckham (SI/PYG) was fully cracking at this point. In early 2008, SI/PYG released one of their first music videos, filmed at the Peckham multi-storey car park:
That summer there were back-and-forth shootings between OC and SI members. In one incident, OC rode out on Walworth Road and caught Snap Capone and Butch (SI members) slipping. Snap and Butch ran into the Costcutter store and OC shot at them from the outside, but ended up killing a civilian. That made big media headlines. One thing that has to be mentioned was that OC were ruthless, they didn't care if civilians got hit if they were in the way. "Civilians move" mentality.
Not long afterwards, OC/GAS released a response track to Gunshot Riddim in which OC members mocked Snap and Butch for running in the above incident: "remember what we flew in Wooly Road" ... "had you running in the shop like you're buying suttin" ... "my dargs only run when they see the riot van" (etc). The video was filmed on the Myatts Field Estate:
Gunshot Riddim v Bullet Riddim was the start of the back-and-forth diss music videos between Brixton (OC/GAS) and Peckham (SI/PYG). Cracking on the streets and over Youtube. In my opinion, this era was the origins of what we now call the UK Drill scene.

Lox and Kearz release solo mixtapes
In 2008, Lox released the mixtape 'I Du Diz 4 Fun', and Kearz released 'King of the Fields'. Both mixtapes were full of shots towards Peckham. Lox's mixtape was notable for his remix of 'Talking The Hardest'.
In December 2007, Giggs (Peckham) released the 'Talking The Hardest' freestyle. In 2008, Lox responded over the same beat, dissing the Peckham Boys and especially the Shoot Instant set (which Snap Capone was a member of). This is a legendary music video in the Peckham v Brixton beef:

Sidebar
OC members popularised certain terms and phrases, which were associated with them through their music. The most famous examples were "cruddy" and "la la la", common catchphrases and adlibs in OC/GAS songs.

Brixton (OC/GAS) links up with Old Kent Road (OBY)
GAS leader Ard Adz continued to build alliances against Peckham, and linked up OC/GAS with OBY from Old Kent Road (SE1). Old Kent Road was nicknamed 'Brooklyn' and they were also beefing Peckham at the time. The most prominent OBY member in music was John Wayne. The first track they made together was 'Brooklyn to Baghdad' (Old Kent Road to Myatts Field):
Ard Adz went to prison soon afterwards. Young Troopz continued the music collaborations between Brixton and Old Kent Road, releasing two music videos with John Wayne in November 2008:
A month later, December 2008, PYG members released 'Coming Up'. In the second verse, M1 (aka Young Gunna D) disses OC: "you little pricks make me laugh when you're talking 'cruddy'...". Just a few weeks after Young Troopz dropped 'Cruddy'.

2009

Brixton v Peckham continues
It would be way too long to list all the disses and responses between Brixton (OC/GAS) and Peckham (SI/PYG) at this point, but the beef was cracking. It was popularly followed by young Londoners across the city, in the same way that UK Drill beef is now. Many of the music videos were uploaded to a YouTube channel called Southbitz (since been deleted), and each topped a million views. I'll just mention a few tracks, but there were many more:
PYG responded to 'OC/GAS - Bullet Riddim', in which OC mocked Peckham members for running during a shooting on Walworth Road. 16-year old Young Size (PYG) starts the track by stating: "You had two turners but never turned nothing, when I roll up on your block I'ma turn something off. He thinks he can try come Wooly Road and bark it off, but when I ride up on your block, little dickheads sliding off":
In early 2009, Giggs (Peckham) released a music video for 'Freestyle 09'. At this time Giggs was the hottest rapper in the game, and had recently won the first ever 'Best International Act' at the BET Hip Hop Awards. In April, OC/GAS released 'Ard 3Style' over the same beat. The song includes various disses towards Giggs and Peckham, and the music video was filmed on the Myatts Field Estate:
In May 2009, PYG members Stigs and Shocks dropped a music video for 'Rec A G' - one of the most legendary tracks to be dropped by youngers in the UK scene. The song doesn't mention anyone specifically, but it's clearly directed at Brixton. A month later, OC/GAS dropped a block freestyle in which they diss Peckham back. They reference lyrics in 'Rec A G' and mock Shocks' adlib "ya liar":
In summer 2009, PYG members Shocks and Young Size released 'Police & Thief', dissing Brixton. In response, OC/GAS released their reply, dissing Peckham over the same beat. It became one of the biggest tracks in the scene that summer, and the music video was filmed on Myatts Field Estate:
That year, Young Troopz was the most active OC member in music. By this point he was considered one of the best youngers in the UK scene. He was also one of the more respected young members on road.

'The Truth' CCTV video
In 2009, the police were investigating certain Peckham (PYG) members due to their war with Brixton (OC/GAS). Police sent the Peckham members' lawyers CCTV footage of Brixton and Peckham sliding on each others' territories, as proof that they had evidence of their involvement. A PYG associate took the footage, annotated it and uploaded it to Youtube.
Part 1 of the footage shows PYG members sliding to Angell Town Estate in Brixton at night. Part 2 shows OC/GAS members sliding to the Peckham frontline in broad daylight. The annotations were written to to make OC/GAS look bad. The original upload was in better quality and gained over a million views, but this is the only clip left on YouTube:
After PYG uploaded the footage, OC/GAS and their allies YRS (Young Roadside G's) released the video 'Ur Liars', accusing PYG of lying in the annotations and cooperating with the police for the CCTV footage:
PYG member Young Size filmed himself on the Myatts Field Estate to further disrespect OC/GAS:

2010

The new year saw Political Peak return to music, dropping the mixtape 'More Than Peak Vol.1'. Two music videos from the project, featuring OC members Syikes, Madantz and Killa Buzz:
Political Peak and Sneakbo became frequent collaborators, dropping a number of OC/GAS music videos through the year. Two of those tracks stood out as classics. 'Touch Ah Button' was one of the biggest songs in the scene, from the playgrounds to the clubs. In an old interview, Drake said that 'Touch Ah Button was his first introduction to the UK gang/rap scene, an interest he's maintained to the present day:

The fall of Young Troopz
Young Troopz wasn't active in music in 2010 because he and several other OC members were on trial for the 2008 murder on Walworth Road. In the end, Young Troopz was jailed for 5 and a half years for possessing the gun used in the murder. It was believed that Young Troopz talked during the investigation, so he was kicked out of OC and banned from Brixton. From this point onwards there's no mention of him by Brixton members in music or on social media.

Peckham civil war
2010 was also the year of the Peckham civil war: a major split within the Peckham Boys which reshaped territories and alliances within the Peckham, Camberwell and Walworth area. This pretty much brought an end to the Peckham v Brixton war.


2011-2012

Murders puts media spotlight on OC and Myatts Field
OC were once cool with ABM (M Block), a gang from nearby Stockwell. However, ABM had sided with TN1/86 (Tulse Hill) in their increasing beef with Brixton. Plus Brixton were linked with 031 (Wandsworth Road) who were ABM's main opps. These ties caused OC and ABM to fall out.
In March 2011, OC members Killa Buzz, Madantz and Kaz cycled from Myatts Field to Stockwell to score on ABM. Two members of ABM ran into the Stockwell Food and Wine store to hide, and OC shot into the store from the outside. The bullets hit the shop owner and his 5-year old niece Thusha Kamaleswaran, paralysing her. CCTV of the incident was released by the police, which was a big media story at the time. Killa Buzz was sentenced to minimum 17 years, Madantz and Kaz both got a minimum 14. This was only a few years after the Costcutter shooting in 2008 under similar circumstances, so a lot of scrutiny was put on OC:
In May 2011, a 16-year old OC member Nathan murdered a 15-year old boy named Temidayo Ogunneye on the Myatts Field Estate. Temidayo had gone to Myatts Field to retrieve a Blackberry that had been stolen by young OC members earlier that day, but got stabbed to death once on OC territory. Following his trial, Nathan was sentenced to a minimum of 14 years:

OC leaders leave gang life
A female pastor named Mimi Asher was living on the Myatts Field Estate. She opened her house to OC members, and over time helped many turn away from gang life:
Two outstanding members of OC, Lox (Karl Lokko) and Boost (Terroll Lewis), found Christianity and left gang life behind. They have both been open about their former lives:

In this period, younger OC members like Tiny Syikes became more active in music:

2013

OC change name to 410
The name OC had been tarnished by relentless media scrutiny, its main leaders had left road, and its beef with Peckham had died. It was like an old era had ended, and a new era was beginning.
Also Myatts Field Estate had been undergoing regeneration by this time, with the old blocks getting replaced by modern apartments. These changes were the inspiration for the new name of their gang. The Myatts Field Estate was being renamed as Oval Quarter, so members took (Oval Quarter) and flipped it to become 4/10. From now onwards, OC began to be known as 410 (four-ten).
Younger 410 members continued releasing music:

GAS Gang splits
In late 2013, a leading GAS member from Somerleyton Estate (5 Star) accused a leading GAS member from Angell Town Estate (Sneakbo) of snitching, and dropped a statement in this tweet. GAS Gang split as a result: the Angell Town faction formed 150, and the Somerleyton faction left as Siru/Siraq. The two blocks beef each other to this day. Myatts Fields (410) remained close with Angell Town (150), as they were before the GAS era.

2014

In May, 410 had their first Westwood crib session featuring the some of the more senior members Political Peak, Fire Armz, Syikes, Kearz, Troopz, Looch and VI:

Early UK Drill era
Alongside 150 and 67, the younger 410 members were pioneers of the early UK Drill sound. In June 2014, Baby Troopz (aka BT, the younger brother of Young Troopz) released his first solo video:
In September 2014, members BT, Tiny Syikes and Rendo released '4 Door Coming'. The song is considered a classic UK Drill track, and has since been referenced numerous times by other UK Drill artists:
410 ended the year with a 'No Hook' by BT, YS and Rendo, the first 'No Hook' in UK Drill. Rendo's verse was considered one of the best in the early UK Drill scene:

2015

410 started the year with an anthem including senior and younger members:

UK - Chicago Drill history made
In May 2015, Chicago drill artist THF TP used the '410 - 4 Door Coming' beat for his track 'THF TP - Bus Stop'. That's the first time a Drill beat from a UK song and producer was used by a Chicago drill artist. Bus Stop is considered a classic in the Chicago scene.

The rise of the duos
BT and Rendo continued releasing music together consistently, and became many people's favourite duo in UK Drill. Some of the more prominent releases that year:
AM and Young Rendo (aka Skengdo), part of a younger generation of 410 members, started releasing music together. They would develop into many people's favourite UK Drill duo's in time:

F Block mixtape
In October 2015, 410 released the F Block mixtape, a classic squad tape in UK Drill.

2016

410 started the year by dropping anthems.
The duo of BT and Rendo dropped 'Ten Toes', one of the most gassed tracks of the era:
The younger members Sparkz, Skengdo and AM started the year with 'Think Again'. The final verse by AM was very highly rated when it dropped:
410 also had their second Westwood Crib Session, featuring BT, Rendo, Tiny Syikes, VI, YS, Mo Squeeze, Troopz and Looch:
Overall 2016 was another productive year for 410 with its main rappers (BT, Rendo, AM and Skengdo) consistently dropping music. Some examples:

Tennessee
Around this time, 410 was mainly occupied by its long term war with Kennington. 410 (Myatts Field) and Harlem (Kennington Park) are rival sets located very close to each other. Several 410 and Harlem members were childhood friends, due to how close both areas are. However, gang loyalties turned those childhood friends into gang enemies.
'Tennessee' is a chicken shop on Brixton Road, located between 410 and Harlem territory. In 2016 an infamous stabbing took place at that Tennessee, with police releasing CCTV of the incident:
410 and Harlem both mention that chicken shop in their lyrics when dissing each other, to imply that they won't step beyond it into enemy territory:

2017

Golden era for 410
In January, 410's rivals Harlem dropped 'Harlem Spartans - Kennington Where It Started'. It's considered by many as one of the best UK Drill tracks of all time. A couple of weeks later, 410 dropped 'Crash', one of Skengdo & AM's most iconic tracks:
In February, Skengdo & AM followed it by dropping 'No Lotion', 'Foolishness' and a collaboration with 17 (Wandsworth Road):
In March, AM follow up with 'No Filter', in which he takes various shots at Harlem:
March also saw 410's third Westwood Crib Session, featuring Skengdo, AM, BT, Rendo, J1, Yamz (Young AM), Blackz and 3 Rounds. Constant shots taken at Harlem:
At this point the beef between 410 and the Harlem Spartans was the biggest storyline in UK Drill. Both gangs were dropping popular tracks and continually taking shots at each other. In the midst of this hype, Skengdo & AM dropped their iconic 'Mad About Bars' freestyle. At over 20 million views, it's the most watched video ever released by 410:
In summer, 410 filmed a 'Behind Barz' freestyle and a block cypher at the Cowley blocks, featuring Skengdo, AM, Rendo, Syikes and Blackz:
On the same day, 410 also filmed two music videos:

Return of Sparkz
In late 2017, Sparkz return to music dropping 'That's Funny', filmed in the Cowley blocks:
410 also had their fourth Westwood Crib Session, featuring younger members Jayslapit, Blackz, Young AM and Sparkz:

Skengdo & AM drop debut mixtape
Skengdo & AM finished the year by releasing their debut mixtape, '2 Bunny' and their debut 'Fire In The Booth' freestyle on BBC 1Xtra. This was accompanied with multiple video releases, including:

BT & Rendo release 'Boom Bow' mixtape
In 2017, BT & Rendo released the 'Boom Bow' mixtape. Unfortunately it's been removed from YouTube and all streaming sites (which is a shame, because it's one of the best mixtapes in drill). In February, BT dropped a video for the mixtape's intro track:
In summer, a video was released for track 6: '2 Man Step'. The modern background in the music video demonstrates how much regeneration has changed the Myatts Field area:
In the autumn a music video was dropped for track 16: 'CR4SH£RS'. It's the first appearance by Tiny Syikes since he returned from a brief stint in prison:
After Skengdo & AM's 'Mad About Bars' freestyle in April 2017, fans were demanding a freestyle involving BT, Rendo and Tiny Syikes. 410 ended the year by dropping it for Christmas:

2018

In January, 410 dropped a Radar Radio freestyle with Peckham's Zone 2. The freestyle is notable for the shots AM takes at Harlem Spartans and Moscow17. Those bars are later used in his track 'Attempted 1.0':

'WDYM'
In March 2018, Oboy (a member of Kennington's Kuku gang) released 'WDYM'. The track takes direct shots at 410 members including AM, Skengdo, Young AM, Blackz and Syikes:
410 members responded directly with 'Attempted 2.0' and their own 'WDYM', taking shots at Kuku and Harlem members:

The rise and fall of of JaySlapit
Young 410 member Jayslapit made his music entrance in 2017 with 'J.T.F.I' and the Westwood Crib Session alongside Young AM and Blackz. In 2018, JaySlapit raised his profile with more song releases and two acclaimed solo freestyles. JaySlapit's rise was halted after being imprisoned for 11 years on firearm and drugs charges:

Negative media spotlight on UK Drill affects 410
Moscow17 is a gang based on the Brandon Estate in Walworth (SE17). They are enemies of 410, and they border 410's territory. In 2018, two prominent Moscow members and drill rappers were murdered: 17-year old GB was shot dead May 2018, and 23 year-old Incognito was stabbed to death in August 2018.
Prominent 410 member Tiny Syikes was shot in Myatts Field in May 2018. Incidents like these put an intense media spotlight on the gang violence in the area, and wider events in London whipped up a media frenzy over UK Drill music:
In 2018, London's Metropolitan Police responded by increasingly censoring and banning UK Drill. This included deleting popular UK Drill videos and forcing new content to be censored. Skengdo & AM were hit with a gang injunction, banning them from performing 'gang-related' music at their December tour.

Skengdo & AM tours and new mixtape
Skengdo & AM were signed by the label Finesse Foreva (FF). In March and April they took part in their first tour, with three dates in Birmingham, Manchester and London:
In September, Skengdo & AM released their second mixtape, 'Greener On The Other Side'. The mixtape is notable for the track 'Pitbulls' featuring Chief Keef, a landmark UK-US drill collaboration:
The duo ended 2018 with a December tour, with five dates in Manchester, London, Bristol, Nottingham and Birmingham:

2019

Legal trouble for Skengdo & AM
In January 2019, Skengdo & AM were nearly sent to prison after violating their police gang injunction. During their December 2018 tour they performed material that had been banned by the police, so they were given suspended prison sentences:
In April 2019, Skengdo & AM had an interview with BBC Radio 1Xtra, in which they discussed their gang injunction and police censorship:

Skengdo & AM maintain consistency
Despite their January legal troubles, Skengdo & AM continued releasing music. The duo dropped two tracks early in the year:
In July, AM released a highly rated solo track:

BT, Rendo, Tiny Syikes and YS return to music
In 2019, legendary 410 duo BT & Rendo returned to music for the first time in over a year. They dropped 'Longtime' in February, referring to how long it's been since they last released material:
Tiny Syikes (now also known as TrapStack) also returned to music in 2019, for the first time since being shot in May 2018:
YS also returned to music in 2019 under the name SMoney. After releasing a solo track, this collaboration with Rendo was their first visual release together in four years:
Alongside the return of several older 410 members, younger members including Sparkz, Lil Rass, Young AM and Blackz kept up 410's relevance in 2019:

Skengdo & AM drop the 'Back Like We Never Left' mixtape
From August, Skengdo & AM started dropping material from their new mixtape. The young member JaySlapit had sent to prison for 11 years, so the duo released '3 JaySlapit' in his honour:
In September the duo released 'Crash x GBG', a collaboration with Angell Town artists M24 and Stickz, as well as the more mellow 'Tugg':
In October, the 'Back Like We Never Left' mixtape was released. Two more music videos from the project dropped:
Skengdo & AM finished the year by dropping a Daily Duppy freestyle on GRM Daily, and Skengdo's hotspot freestyle on Pacman TV:

2020

AM and Syikes started the year with individual Hotspot freestyles:
In January, a music video for 'No Love' was also released. The track is a collaboration with 17/TOG (Wandsworth Road) and was recorded before JaySlapit went to prison:


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That's a brief history of 410. It could have been longer but that's more than enough 😂
For anyone wondering, my favourite 410 song from the early drill era is 4 Door Coming, and my favourite from the recent drill era is Trapping & Stacking.
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2019.08.18 11:47 unnouveauladybug Queerpost Saturday 17/8/19 Compilation

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2018.08.18 17:10 XYZ-Wing Jordan vs James: A Year by Year Comparison Pt. II

Two of the greatest NBA players of all time are Michael Jordan and LeBron James. Both have fans who will go to bat for them as the GOAT. Many Jordan fans will point to his six rings and astronomical scoring numbers not seen since the heyday of Wilt Chamberlain. Many LeBron fans will cite his impeccable all around game and nearly unmatched longevity.
I wanted to take a look at how each player compared on a year by year basis, starting when each player was 21 years old (Jordan's age in his rookie season). As a result, LeBron's first two years in the league will not be taken into account in this analysis. Part I can be found here. We've already looked at the first half of each player's career, now let's look at the second half.

Age 28 Seasons

Player PTS REB AST STL BLK TS% PER WS
Jordan 30.1 6.4 6.1 2.3 0.9 0.579 27.7 17.7
LeBron 26.8 8.0 7.3 1.7 0.9 0.640 31.6 19.3
The Bulls continued their dominance following their championship season, topping their franchise record set the year before with 67 wins. Jordan once again led the league in scoring by posting 30.1 points on 52% shooting and won his second consecutive NBA MVP award, his third MVP overall, and was again elected to the All NBA and All Defensive First Teams. The Bulls would face the 8th seeded Miami Heat in the first round of the playoffs, the first time Miami would play in the postseason. However, the Bulls would spoil this run for the Heat, sweeping Miami in 3 games with Jordan dropping 56 points in Game 3. In the second round, the Bulls faced the 4th seeded Knicks, who surprised the Bulls by winning Game 1 in Chicago to take a quick series lead. The Bulls brought the series back however, and eventually went to a Game 7. After struggling a bit in the earlier games, Jordan poured it on in Game 7, scoring 42 points as the Bulls blew out the Knicks. The Bulls went on to defeat the 3rd seed Cavaliers in 6 games, moving on to their second straight Finals appearance. The Bulls faced the Portland Trailblazers and Jordan pounced on them from the start. In Game 1, Jordan scored a Finals record 35 points in the first half, including six 3 pointers. After the sixth made three, Jordan jogged back up the court looking at Marv Albert while shrugging. Chicago once again gave up home court advantage as the Blazers won Game 2, but quickly regained it in Game 3 before ultimately taking a 3-2 series lead going into Game 6. Jordan scored 33 points in the deciding game, capping off another championship season for the Bulls. He was once again named the Finals MVP, posting 35.8 points, 4.8 rebounds, and 6.5 assists per game while shooting 53% from the floor.
LeBron James had his most impressive year to date in terms of shooting efficiency, including setting several efficiency records in the month of February. The Heat also won 27 games in a row, the third longest streak in NBA history. Miami finished the year with a franchise record 66 wins and James won his second consecutive, and fourth overall, MVP award as well as being voted to the All NBA and All Defensive First Teams. The Heat swept the Milwaukee Bucks before meeting the Chicago Bulls in the second round. The Bulls stunned the seemingly unstoppable Heat by taking Game 1 thanks to a 27 point performance from Nate Robinson. The Heat were unable to score in the last 2 minutes of the game as the Bulls stole home court advantage. Despite the minor set back, the Heat won the next 3 games by double digits before finding themselves trailing in going into the fourth quarter of Game 5 77-69. The Heat scored 25 points in the closing period, narrowly defeating the Bulls and moving on to the Conference Finals once more where they faced off against the Indiana Pacers. Game 1 turned into a thriller, as Paul George hit the game typing 3 pointer to send the game into OT. Not to be outdone, LeBron scored the game winning layup in overtime, finishing with a statline of 30points, 10 rebounds, and 10 assists. In spite of this, the Pacers gave the Heat all they could handle, sending the series to a deciding Game 7. LeBron scored 32 as the Heat overwhelmed the Pacers, blowing them out and advancing to the Finals for the third straight year where James would have a rematch against the San Antonio Spurs. The Spurs took Game 1 despite James posting a statline of 18 points, 18 rebounds, and 10 assits. The next four games were blowouts for either team, and the Spurs led the series 3-2 going into Game 6. With the Spurs leading 95-92 in the closing seconds, LeBron missed the game tying three pointer. The shot was rebounded by Chris Bosh, who found Ray Allen open on the wing. Allen hit the three with 5.6 second remaining, in what would become one of the most clutch shots in Playoff history. The Heat went on to win the game in overtime and went back to Miami for the deciding Game 7. LeBron had 37 points and 12 rebound in the final game, leading the Heat to the win and securing their second straight NBA championship. He was named the Finals MVP after posting 25.3 points, 10.9 rebounds, 7 assists, and 2.3 steals in the series.

Age 29 Seasons

Player PTS REB AST STL BLK TS% PER WS
Jordan 32.6 6.7 5.5 2.8 0.8 0.564 29.7 17.2
LeBron 27.1 6.9 6.3 1.6 0.3 0.649 29.3 15.9
Despite another eye popping statline from Jordan where he led the league for a 7th straight year (tying Wilt Chamberlain's record streak), he did not win the MVP award, losing it to Charles Barkley of the Phoenix Suns. However, the Bulls still secured the second seed, and swept the Atlanta Hawks in the first round of the Playoffs. The Bulls handily won Games 1, 2, and 3 against the Cavs in the second round. In a tightly contested Game 4, Jordan hit the series winning shot at the buzzer, an all too familiar sight for the Cavaliers. In the Conference Finals, the Bulls once again faced off against he New York Knicks who had the first seed that year. The Knicks won both games at home, and the Bulls were down 2-1 heading into Game 4. Jordan scored 54 points, the most against the Knicks in a Playoff game, to even the series at 2-2. Game 5 was a close one, with BJ Armstrong scoring the go ahead 3 with 1:16 left that turned out to be the game winning shot. In an iconic defensive flurry, Charles Smith was blocked four times at the end of the game by Horace Grant, Michael Jordan, and Scottie Pippen. The Bulls went on to win Game 6, and advanced to the Finals for the third straight year. The Bulls faced off against the Phoenix Suns featuring league MVP Charles Barkley. The Bulls jumped to an early 2-0 lead despite the Suns having home court advantage thanks to a 31 point Game 1 and 42 point Game 2 from Jordan. Game 2 started a 4 game stretch where Jordan scored 40 or more points, including 55 points in game 4. However, the Bulls lost 2 of these games, including a triple overtime classic in Game 3. With the Bulls up 3-2, Game 6 was another close game. Withe 3.9 seconds remaining, John Paxson hit the go ahead 3 pointer for the Bulls. Kevin Johnson tried to retaliate but was blocked by Horace Grant at the buzzer giving the Bulls their third straight NBA Championship. Jordan had a historic series, averaging 41 points per game, the highest points per game average in a Finals round. Jordan was named the Finals MVP for the third straight year for his impressive efforts.
In a year where the Heat suffered several injuries, LeBron anchored the team that sported 20 different starting lineups throughout the season. This included a career high 61 point game against the Charlotte Bobcats, and he once again had an amazingly efficient shooting year, averaging 56.7% from the field. The Heat would face the Bobcats in the first round of the playoffs, and handily swept them thanks to LeBron's heavy scoring output. The Heat faced the Nets in the second round and, despite losing all four games against them in the regular season, managed to take the series fairly easily 4 games to 1, including a 49 outburst from James in Game 4. In a rematch of the previous season's Eastern Conference Finals, the Heat faced the Indiana Pacers. The Pacers took an early lead in the series, defeating the two time defending champions by 10 points in Game 1. In a tight Game 2, LeBron and Wade combined for the Heat's last 20 points, narrowly defeating the Pacers and taking home court advantage. With a 3-1 lead in Game 5, Paul George kept the Pacers afloat with 37 points, as the Pacers staved off elimination. The Heat would take the series in 6, thanks to 25 points each from LeBron James and Chris Bosh, and returned to the Finals for the fourth straight season where they would again face the San Antonio Spurs. In Game 1, LeBron missed much of the fourth quarter due to leg cramps, and the Spurs took a 1-0 lead in the series. In Game 2, LeBron retaliated with a 35 point performance, evening the series at 1-1 in a 2 point win. The rest of the series was all San Antonio, with Kawhi Leonard scoring a career high 29 points as the Spurs blew out the Heat in Game 3 and won convincingly again in Game 4. In Game 5, Miami got out to a fast start, taking a 22-6 lead to start the game with LeBron scoring 17 points in the first quarter alone, finishing with a 29-22 lead heading into the second. However, the Spurs hot shooting continued as they outscored the Heat 82-58 in the remaining three quarters despite LeBron's 31 points and 10 rebounds, avenging their loss from the previous year.

Age 30 Seasons

Player PTS REB AST STL BLK TS% PER WS
Jordan 88 H 17 2B 1 3B 3 HR 51 RBI 0.202 BA 0.289 OBP 0.266 SLG
LeBron 25.3 6.0 7.4 1.6 0.7 0.577 25.9 10.4
On October 6th, 1993, Jordan announced that he was retiring from basketball, stating that he had lost his desire to play. Jordan would later say that the murder of his father, who had always envisioned him as a professional baseball player, also influenced his decision. In the 1998 autobiography, Jordan stated that he had plans on retiring as early as 1992. His number 23 was retired by the Bulls on November 1st 1994, and a statue of Jordan was erected outside the United Center. During his retirement, Jordan played AA baseball for a Chicago White Sox affiliate, the Birmingham Barons.
After opting out of the final year of his contract with the Heat, LeBron returned to the Cavaliers as a free agent in the 2014 offseason. In addition to James, the Cavaliers acquired Kevin Love from the Minnesota Timeberwolves, making a new big three with James, Love, and Cavaliers All Star point guard Kyrie Irving. James missed two weeks of the season in January, the longest stretch of missed games in his entire NBA career. The Cavs clinched the second seed, and swept their old rivals the Boston Celtics in the first round. The Cavs split the first two games with the Bulls in the second round, and lost Game 3 to a buzzer-beater 3 from Derrick Rose, putting them in a 2-1 hole. James returned the favor in Game 4, hitting a buzzer-beater of his own as the Cavs won 86-84. The Cavs won Game 5 behind 38 points and 12 rebounds from James and taking a 3-2 series lead before blowing out the Bulls in Game 6. The Cavs faced the number 1 seeded Atlanta Hawks in the Conference Finals. Despite this, the Cavs swept the series, including an overtime win in Game 3 where LeBron notched 37 points, 18 rebounds, and 13 assists. In the Finals, the Cavaliers faced the Golden State Warriors led by Steph Curry and rookie coach Steve Kerr. Despite 44 points from James, the Cavaliers lost in overtime as the Warriors took a 1-0 series lead. Irving fractured his kneecap in the overtime period and Kevin Love had been injured in the first round, leaving LeBron as the only member of the Cavs Big 3 to play the remaining Finals games and forcing the Cavs to play a slower and more physical style of play. James rose to the challenge in Game 2, scoring 39 points to go along with 16 rebound and 11 assists as the Cavs edged the Warriors 95-93 in overtime. LeBron followed up the performance with 40 points and 12 rebounds in Game 3, leading the undermanned Cavs to a surprising 2-1 series lead. The rest of the series, Kerr opted to go with a smaller line-up, putting Draymond Green at center and starting Andre Iguodala in order to guard James. The strategy worked, and the Warriors soundly defeated the Cavs the next three games despite some stellar performances from James, winning their first championship since 1975. James finished the series with averages of 35.8 points, 13.3 rebounds, and 8.8 assists per game in the Finals and received 4 out of 11 votes for Finals MVP despite the losing effort.

Age 31 Seasons

Player PTS REB AST STL BLK TS% PER WS
Jordan 26.9 6.9 5.3 1.8 0.8 0.493 22.1 2.3
LeBron 25.3 7.4 6.8 1.4 0.6 0.588 27.5 13.6
In March of 1995, Jordan quit baseball due to the MLB strike and on March 18th, Jordan announced in a two word press release: "I'm back". The next night, Jordan, sporting the number 45 instead of his retired 23, returned to the floundering Bulls and scored 19 points in his return. In his fourth game back, Jordan hit the game winning shot against the Hawks and followed that up with a 55 point game against the Knicks the next game. The Bulls finished with a record of 13-4 in the 17 games Jordan played, making the Playoffs as the fifth seed. The Bulls defeated the Charlotte Hornets 3-1 in the first round, including a 48 point game from Jordan in Game 1. The Bulls faced the 1 seed Orlando Magic, led by young center Shaquille O'Neal, in the second round of the Playoffs. In Game 1, Jordan scored only 19 points and Nick Anderson stole the ball from him in the closing moments of the game, prompting Anderson to comment that Jordan was playing like a 45 year old and that "number 45 doesn't explode like number 23 used to", in reference to Jordan's new jersey number. Former Bulls player Horace Grant made the game winning dunk after the steal with 6.2 second left to give the Magic a 1-0 series lead. Jordan switched back to his number 23 jersey for Game 2 and responded with 38 points as the Bulls beat the Magic by 10 to even the series. The teams split the next two games before the Magic won Games 5 and 6, advancing to the Eastern Conference Finals despite Jordan averaging 33.4 points per game in Games 2-6. The Magic would advance to the Finals, where they lost to the previous year's champion, the Houston Rockets. This would be Michael Jordan's last career playoff series loss.
LeBron led the Cavs to 57 wins, securing the number 1 seed in the East despite the mid-season firing of head coach David Blatt. The Cavs advanced to the Finals once more, sweeping the Pistons and Hawks in the first two rounds, and defeating the Toronto Raptors 4 -2 in the Eastern Conference Finals. The Cavs would once again face the heavily favored Warriors, who had won an NBA record 73 games in the regular season. In Games 1 and 2, the Warriors blew out the Cavs before getting blown out themselves in Game 3. The Warriors won by 11 on the back of 38 points from league MVP Steph Curry, putting the Cavaliers in a 3-1 hole. James and Irving both scored 41 points in Game 5 and James scored another 41 in Game 6 to even the series at 3 games a piece. Game 7 was tightly contested the entire way. With less than 2 minutes remaining and the score tied at 89, Andre Iguodala drove down the lane on a fast break for the go ahead layup attempt. James caught up to Iguodala and pinned the shot against the backboard in one of his most iconic career highlights. Kyrie Irving nailed a dagger 3 with less than a minute to play, sealing the win for the Cavaliers who became the first Cleveland team in 52 years to win a championship in one of the four major sports, the first championship for the Cavaliers franchise, and becoming the first team to win a Finals after trailing 3-1 in the series. LeBron led all players from both teams in all 5 statistical categories, and was unanimously selected as the Finals MVP, the third such award in his career.

Age 32 Seasons

Player PTS REB AST STL BLK TS% PER WS
Jordan 30.4 6.6 4.3 2.2 0.5 0.582 29.4 20.4
LeBron 26.4 8.6 8.7 1.2 0.6 0.619 27.0 12.9
Motivated by his first defeat in the Playoffs since 1990, Jordan put his all into training for the 1995-96 season. The Bulls also acquired rebounding and defensive specialist Dennis Rodman, and the Bulls jumped out the a 41-3 start. The Bulls finished with a 72-10 record, at that point the best regular season record in NBA history. Jordan led the league in scoring for the 8th time in his career, and won the MVP award for the fourth. The Bulls made short work of the Heat in the first round, blowing Miami out in each of the series 3 games to complete the sweep. The Bulls defeated the Knicks 4-1 in the second round, and advanced to the Eastern Conference Finals for a rematch with the Orlando Magic. The Bulls, looking to avenge their defeat from the previous year, jumped on the Magic early and blew them out by 38 points in Game1, eventually sweeping them to return to the Finals once more. The Bulls matched up with the Seattle Supersonics led by Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp, jumping out to a quick 3-0 lead in the series. The Sonics battled back over next two games, cutting the series lead to 3-2. However, the Bulls proved too much, and Jordan's all around statline of 22 points, 9 rebounds, and 7 assists led the Bulls to the series win. This was Jordan's first championship since his father was murdered, and Game 6 happened to occur on Father's Day, leading to an emotional scene with Jordan crying on the locker room floor while clutching the game ball. Jordan was named the Finals MVP of the series, becoming the first player to ever win 4 Finals MVP awards and becoming only the second player to win the All Star Game MVP, regular season MVP, and Finals MVP in the same season.
In a year that LeBron described as one of the strangest of his career, the Cavaliers finished with a 51-31 record while James set new career highs in rebounds per game and assists per game at the age of 32. James and the Cavaliers faced a familiar rival in the first round of the playoffs, the Indiana Pacers. The Cavaliers narrowly defeated the Pacers in Games 1 and 2, but found themselves trailing at halftime of Game 3 by 25 points. LeBron registered 41 points, 13 rebounds, and 12 assists as the Cavs came back to win Game 3 by five, making it one of the largest comebacks in NBA playoff history. The Cavaliers won Game 4 to complete the sweep despite the series being much closer than the series score would indicate, with the Cavs winning no game by more than 6 points. In the Conference Finals against the Boston Celtics, the Cavs rolled to a 2-0 series lead behind 38 and 30 point performances from LeBron. The Celtics defeated the Cavs on a buzzer beater 3 from Avery Bradley in Game 3 before being blown out again in Games 4 and 5. In Game 5 of the sereis, LeBron scored 35 points and surpassed Michael Jordan to become the all time leader in postseason scoring. The Cavaliers would meet the Golden State Warriors, who had signed free agent forward Kevin Durant in the off-season, for the third consecutive year in the Finals. Despite becoming the first player to average a triple double in a Finals series with 33.6 points, 12 rebounds, and 10 assists per game, LeBron and the Cavs were no match for the Warriors who took the series in 5 games. Durant scored 30 or more points in each of the five games of the series on his way to his first Finals MVP award.

Age 33 Seasons

Player PTS REB AST STL BLK TS% PER WS
Jordan 29.6 5.9 4.3 1.7 0.5 0.567 27.8 18.3
LeBron 27.5 8.6 9.1 1.4 0.9 0.621 28.6 14.0
The 1996-97 was the first full year that Jordan played in where he would not averaged at least 30 points per game since his rookie year. Even so, this became the ninth year that Jordan would lead the league in scoring, as the Bulls narrowly missed consecutive 70 win seasons, losing the final two games of the year to finish 69-13. Jordan once again lost the MVP to a Western Conference Power Forward, this time the award going to Utah Jazz big man Karl Malone. The Bulls returned to the Finals after sweeping the Washington Bullets and defeating both the Atlanta Hawks and Miami Heat 4 games to 1. The Bulls would face the Utah Jazz in the NBA Finals, led by Malone and point guard John Stockton. In Game 1, Jordan notched 31 points, 2 of which were the game winning shot at the buzzer, to go along with 8 assists. He then scored 38 in Game 2 to put the Bulls up 2-0. Despite Scottie Pippen making a then Finals record 7 three pointers in Game 3, Jordan shot poorly in Games 3 and 4, going just 20-45 from the floor as the Jazz crept back to tie the series at 2 games a piece. In what became known as the "Flu Game", Jordan played 44 minutes and scored 38 points, including the go ahead three pointer with 25 seconds remaining, in a pivotal Game 5 despite being feverish and dehydrated due to a stomach virus. After the final buzzer, Jordan slumped into Scottie Pippen's arms in an iconic scene that would become synonymous with the "Flu Game". Jordan followed up this performance with a 39 point, 11 rebound outing in Game 6, leading the Bulls to their fifth championship and earning an unprecedented fifth Finals MVP award.
In the 2017 offseason, the Cavaliers overhauled their roster, trading All Star guard Kyrie Irving to the Boston Celtics who cited that he no longer desired to play with LeBron James. The Cavs got off to a rocky start to the season, eventually making a number of trades in February that essentially overhauled the roster a second time that season. Despite another great season from James, including setting a career high in assists for the second straight year, the Cavaliers stumbled into the Playoffs as the 4th seed, their worst placement since James's return to Cleveland. The Cavs faced the Pacers in the first round, who blew out Cleveland in Game 1 behind 32 points from Victor Oladipo. The teams split the first 4 games, with Game 5 coming down to the wire. LeBron scored 44 points, including the game winning 3 at the buzzer to give the Cavs a 3-2 series lead. The Pacers blew the Cavs out once again in Game 6 behind Oladipo's triple double to force a deciding Game 7. Despite Oladipo posting a LeBron-esque statline of 30 points, 12 rebounds, and 6 assists, James scored 45 points to edge the Pacers and take the series. The Cavs faced the 1 seeded Raptors in the second round, narrowly taking Game 1 with a 1 point victory in overtime. LeBron's 43 in Game 2 led to a blowout in Cleveland's favor, and a fadeaway bank shot at the buzzer in Game 3 gave the Cavs a 3-0 lead before eventually blowing out the Raptors in Game 4 to complete the sweep. The Cavs faced the Celtics in the Conference Finals for the second consecutive year, with the young Celtics taking a quick 2-0 lead in the series despite missing former Cavalier Kyrie Irving and All Star forward Gordon Hayward to injuries. The Cavs took Games 3 and 4 at home before losing once more to the Celtics in Boston. LeBron notched 46 points, 11 rebounds, and 9 assists to lead the Cavs to a win in Game 6, following up the performance with a 35 point, 15 rebound, 9 assist Game 7 to lead the Cavaliers back to the Finals where they would face the Warriors for a 4th straight season. In Game 1, James scored a career Playoff high 51 points in an overtime loss. A frustrated James punched a wall in the locker room after the loss, injuring his shooting hand and hampering his shot for the rest of the series. The Warriors rolled through the next three games despite LeBron's averages of 34 points, 8.5 rebounds, and 10 assists per game in the series. The Warriors won their second consecutive championship and third in four years as Kevin Durant won his second Finals MVP award.

Age 34 Seasons

Player PTS REB AST STL BLK TS% PER WS
Jordan 28.7 5.8 3.5 1.7 0.5 0.533 25.2 15.8
LeBron ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Despite averaging even less points per game than the previous year, Jordan led the league in scoring for a record 10th time, the final year he would do so. The Bulls posted a respectable 62-20 record to secure the first seed in the East as Jordan once again won the All Star Game MVP and his fifth regular season MVP. The Bulls swept the Nets in the first round with Jordan scoring 38 points in the deciding game. The Bulls faced Charlotte in the second round, where the Hornets upset the Bulls in Game 2 with Jordan only scoring 22 points in the game. The Bulls responded, winning the next three games handily to advance to the Eastern Conference Finals for the third straight year. The Indiana Pacers gave the Bulls a run for their money, forcing a Game 7, the first time Jordan played in a Game 7 since the 1992 playoffs against the Knicks. The Bulls held a 2-1 lead heading into Game 4 thanks to Jordan's scoring. Game 4 went down to the wire, with Reggie Miller hitting the game winning three with 0.7 seconds left to tie the series at 2 games a piece. The Bulls dominated Game 5, but lost Game 6 despite Jordan scoring 35 and Miller going 2-13 from the field for only 8 points. The Bulls managed to edge the Pacers in Game 7 behind a near triple double from Jordan who posted 28 points, 9 rebounds, and 8 assists. Jordan and the Bulls moved on to the Finals for a rematch from the previous year with the Utah Jazz. The Jazz took Game 1 in overtime despite Jordan's 33 points, but the Bulls bounced back in Game 2 behind Jordan's 37 points to even the series at 1-1. In Game 3, the Jazz set a scoring record, and not the good kind, by totaling only 54 points throughout the 48 minute game. At the time, it was the lowest number of points scored in any NBA game, and remains the lowest number of points scored in the Finals since the inception of the shot clock in 1954. The Bulls won Game 4 behind Jordan's 34 points and 8 rebounds, only to narrowly miss completing a 7 point comeback in the final 2 minutes of Game 5. In Game 6, the Bulls trailed the Jazz 86-83 with 41.9 seconds remaining. After a timeout, Jordan received the inbound pass and hit a shot to cut the Jazz lead to 1. The Jazz brought the ball back down and got the ball to Karl Malone in the post. Jordan sneaked in behind Malone and stole the ball. Jordan passed half-court and ran the clock down. With 10 seconds remaining, Jordan began to make a move on Jazz guard on Byron Russell, crossing him over at the free throw line and causing him to fall with Jordan possibly pushing him to create more space. With 5.2 seconds remaining in the game, Jordan hit the series winning jumper, and his last shot as a member of the Chicago Bulls. Stockton missed a desperation 3 pointer at the buzzer, and the Bulls won their 6th championship in 8 years. Jordan averaged 33.5 points per game in the series, including 45 points in the deciding Game 6, and won his record sixth and final Finals MVP award, once again completing the season MVP sweep. After a lengthy lockout period, Michael Jordan would once again retire from basketball on January 13, 1999. Jordan became part owner and president of basketball operations of the Washington Wizards, and eventually returned to the court as a player with the Wizards from 2001-2003. On April 16th, 2003, Jordan played in his final NBA game, and retired for good at the end of the 2003 season.
As for LeBron, we're all caught up with his career now as we wait to see what he'll do as a Laker. In an interview with Sports Illustrated, James's agent, Rich Paul, explained, "In 2010, when he went to Miami, it was about championships. In 2014, when he went back to Cleveland, it was about delivering on a promise. In 2018, it was just about doing what he wants to do." Despite getting into his mid-thrities, it certainly seems like LeBron can still do pretty much what he wants to do on the court. Despite his age, he still appears to be the greatest player in the world, even if he's not winning regluar season MVP awards anymore.
So what can we draw from this comparison? Well for starters, Michael Jordan and LeBron James are both really good at basketball. For me personally, it was interesting to see how similar their careers were in terms of accolades and recognition. Breaking it down year by year, it was easy to see how each player developed and overcame their Playoff woes early on in their careers, making their eventual success that much sweeter. It's no wonder most fans have Jordan and James as number 1 and 2 all time.

Career Averages (Age 21-33)

Player PTS REB AST STL BLK TS% PER WS
Jordan 31.7 6.3 5.6 2.6 0.9 0.584 29.4 188.7
LeBron 27.7 7.5 7.3 1.6 0.8 0.596 28.6 200.0

Career Playoff Averages (Age 21-33)

Player PTS REB AST STL BLK TS% PER WS
Jordan 33.6 6.6 6.0 2.2 0.9 0.571 28.7 34.9
LeBron 28.9 8.9 7.1 1.8 1.0 0.579 28.3 51.0

Michael Jordan Career Overview

LeBron James Career Overview

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2018.06.15 19:47 Astro63 Defending The Draft: Pittsburgh Steelers

Defending the Draft: Pittsburgh Steelers
Preface:
Entering the draft, the Pittsburgh Steeler’s biggest needs were a Safety and an Inside Linebacker. Just about every Steelers fan would’ve agreed with this. ILB Ryan Shazier suffered an injury that will keep him out for 2018 and likely beyond, and our run defense suffered without him. Our safety play has been poor over the course of the past few years, and Mike Mitchell was ultimately released at the start of the offseason. Other commonly cited needs were a rotational EDGE, a boundary WR, OL depth, and possibly a new RB. Given how our season ended with a game where our offense put up 42 points but we lost, it was safe to say that we were expecting a defense-heavy draft. What we got was a draft where 4/7 picks were on the offensive side of the ball, and no true ILB was drafted. This draft has been both incredibly shocking and divisive among Steelers fans, but even though it didn’t go the way many expected, I see a lot of potential for early contributors and a clear picture for our defensive game-plan going forward.
In Free Agency, where the Steelers are traditionally quiet, the Steelers signed former Packers safety Morgan Burnett and former Colts linebacker Jon Bostic. Morgan Burnett is a consistent player who can play both SS and FS roles, a quality tackler, and was a leader for the Packers defense. Given our breakdowns in the secondary, it’s no surprise that the Steelers opted to bring in someone who can hopefully solidify the unit. Jon Bostic, while more of a role-player previously, brings quality run defense to a defense that was lacking there. Burnett was an expected starter from the moment he signed, but it also appears that the Steelers feel somewhat comfortable with Jon Bostic as our starting ILB.
Round 1, Pick 28: Terrell Edmunds, SAF, Virginia Tech
With their opening selection, the Steelers opted to draft Virginia Tech safety Terrell Edmunds, brother of linebacker Tremaine Edmunds. This pick was a huge shock to many, including Steelers fans, as very few, if any, had Edmunds as a potential R1 selection, making this one of the biggest surprises in the first round rivaled only by Rashaad Penny to Seattle one pick prior. The Steelers chose him instead of more popularly graded safeties like Justin Reid and Jessie Bates III, and on the surface that was a very confusing decision. However, Edmunds’ skillset is something the Steelers were enamored with, and it’s somewhat easy to see why. For one, Edmunds is one of the very best athletes in this entire class. Per SPARQ, an athletic testing metric that is weight-adjusted, Edmunds was the 2nd highest rated safety, behind Redskins draftee Troy Apke, with a +1.9 Z-Score. His MockDraftable.com spiderweb-chart has him in the high-80s and 90s percentiles in every athletic test as well as size and wingspan. Edmunds is not just some workout warrior either; his athleticism is very notable on film. Edmunds brings speed to a defense, both with range and closing in on tackles, and he’s a very capable man-coverage defender given his athleticism. Edmunds was tasked with picking up both WRs and TEs at Virginia Tech, and he does an excellent job more often than not to stick to his man. Edmunds is also a very aggressive tackler, and not in the ‘throw your body around recklessly’ type of way. He’s a good wrap-up tackler, which is something I think Virginia Tech teaches very well for all their defenders. Where Edmunds falters is in zone coverage and in deep coverage responsibilities, where he can be slow to react to a breaking route or lose his man vertically. He also struggles at times to take the best possible angle when approaching the ball-carrier. Lastly, Edmunds by all accounts was one of the vocal leaders on the VT defense, something the Steelers placed a premium on this offseason.
Regarding where Edmunds fits on the Steelers defense, a lot that was revealed in GM Kevin Colbert and HC Mike Tomlin’s pre-draft press conference. In said conference, both Tomlin and Colbert touched heavily upon ‘specialization’ of skillsets in the college ranks. Comments were made such as “I think there’s more specialization within the positions. … I really just think it really struck us this year in draft prep, the level of specialization in today’s college game, and it’s exciting from our prospective” and “It’s just refreshing to see a nickel corner come to you in the draft more pro-ready, more trained, more specialized in terms of the things he needs to do. In the same way, it’s more exciting to see the situational pass rusher come to you with more defined skillsets or the interior slot receiver. I just think that all of those guys globally come to you with more specialized talents, and it’s good because I think that is our game”, all of which hinting at a new focus on specialization and hybridization for our defense. Terrell Edmunds is a player that really fits that bill. His primary position, at least to start, will be a traditional Strong Safety/3rd Safety where he will be tasked with man coverage on underneath routes and also picking up Tight Ends; something we’ve struggled with over the past few seasons. He has the plus athleticism to pick up a variety of opposing weapons, making him an excellent piece to have in the modern NFL. Furthermore, I expect Edmunds to play a lot of Box-Safety/$-backer responsibilities both on passing downs and some running downs. Playing near the box will allow him to effectively cover the middle of the field, as well as allow him to use his athleticism and aggressiveness in the front-7 where we need it. If Edmunds continues to develop his coverage instincts and skills, he has the range and ball-skills to play some high safety looks, but that’s likely well down the line and not an immediate contribution. The Steelers run one of the highest percentage of sub-package looks with their 3-3-5 and 4-2-5 defenses, and a pick like this one speaks to an even higher usage rate of that. Edmunds will play all over, and will ultimately act as a chess piece for our defense.
Other quick notes on this pick, the Edmunds pick continues a trend dating back to 2010 where our first-round draft pick has received a pro day visit by Kevin Colbert and/or Mike Tomlin. Colbert, Tomlin, and DC Keith Butler were all present at Virginia Tech for the pro day. Most of us assumed this was for Tremaine but it is now clear that they were interested in both brothers. Also of note, it was reported that the Steelers made efforts to trade up for Alabama LB Rashaan Evans but couldn’t find a trading partner. While many would’ve been happy with a traditional ILB, I’m personally glad this didn’t come to fruition because I am not a fan on Rashaan Evans.
Draft Day Trade: WR Martavis Bryant to the Oakland raiders for Pick 3.79
The Steelers made a surprising trade just prior to their first-round selection, dealing WR Martavis Bryant to the Oakland Raiders. While people inside the organization commented on not being interested in trading Bryant leading up to the draft, when Oakland came calling with a 3rd round pick it was an offer they could not refuse. Martavis is a freakish combination of 6’4 size and 4.4 speed, but he never quite gelled with the Steelers offense. Martavis has been suspended multiple times for Marijuana usage, and is on the last year of his contract, so landing a 3rd round pick was a very pleasant surprise. I wish nothing but the best for Martavis in Oakland and I think he adds a nice dynamic to their offense, but I was happy with picking up another Day 2 pick which we ultimately used for future investment.
Round 2, Pick 60: James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State
While our first-round pick was quite the surprise, our second-round pick of Oklahoma State WR James Washington was as unsurprising as it could get. Trading Martavis Bryant made it more pressing and clearer that we were planning to draft a WR early, and a player the Steelers liked fell right into their laps. The Steelers sent the house to Oklahoma State to get a look at Washington, and they also saw him live at Heinz Field tearing up the Pitt Panthers. Suffice to say, they were impressed. I am a big fan of James Washington and I think he fits in incredibly smoothly in our offense. As far as his performance and skillset goes, James Washington was an impressive deep threat in college, racking up 1550 yards and 13 TDs on an absurd 20.9 YPC his senior year. Washington won the Biletnikoff Award for the nation’s top WR, and for good reason. Washington, despite a somewhat strange build for a WR, has some of the best ball-tracking in this class, plays very physical at the top of his routes, and has great build-up speed which he uses to get behind DBs. He’s not exactly the best athlete at the WR position, but his in-game speed is quite clear and he plays with a non-stop motor. Some will question the system he played in and the fact that he played against Big 12 secondaries, but in Pittsburgh he won’t be tasked with being the number 1 option but instead as a complimentary piece. The Steelers already have the best WR in the game with Antonio Brown, and a promising young talent in JuJu Smith-Schuster, but Washington adds a needed element of a deep-ball receiver for Big Ben. Teams already need to focus on AB and JuJu, and adding Washington forces defenses to keep honest or risk being beat over the top. If Ben and Washington build chemistry early, Washington will be a very early contributor and rack up many key plays for our offense. Washington will likely work middle of the field to deep, which complements our current WRs nicely. Also of note, James Washington is regarded as one of the quietest and hardest-working players on Oklahoma State’s team, a complete turnaround from the drama Martavis brought. That will be a very welcome change.
Round 3, Pick 76: Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State
Trade: Steelers trade 3.79 & 7.220 to Seattle for 3.76
Double dipping on Oklahoma State Cowboys, the Steelers selected Quarterback Mason Rudolph after a slight trade up to jump divisional rival Cincinnati. Rudolph himself is a bit of a controversial player, but I think the value on this pick is excellent. Many expected him to be drafted round 2, or possibly even sneak into the back of round 1. Kevin Colbert himself has said that he views Rudolph in the same light as other top QB prospects, so him falling to the third frame must’ve been too good to pass up for the Steelers. I was strongly against the idea of a QB early on (round 1 or 2), but to me getting Rudolph in the 3rd is a huge steal, as I see franchise QB upside. Rudolph was a three-year starter at OKST, and he knows how to command an offense. He is confident, he makes good decisions, and he has some mobility to escape the pocket with. His deep ball accuracy is mightily impressive, as he created great chemistry with hitting James Washington and Marcell Ateman in stride. He does a great job to limit and avoid turnovers without being gun-shy, placing the ball out of harm’s way far more of than not. He’s also not afraid to hit tight windows. However, Rudolph definitely has his weaknesses which is the reason he fell so far. The system he played in has been called into question and doesn’t require him to make many reads, and his arm strength isn’t up to par with what you’d expect from his size. It’s not crippling, and he’s more than capable of making all the throws, but it’s definitely not ideal. Above all though, Rudolph has been drafted into a very ideal situation for his growth and development. Pittsburgh offers him a stacked receiving corps which now features his favorite weapon in college, as well as a quality OL and consistent running game, especially if Bell re-signs. He’ll have time to develop in a pro-style offense and learn behind Big Ben (certain commentary notwithstanding). His confidence and poise should take him a long way in a situation like this. Will Rudolph be the true heir to Big Ben in Pittsburgh? I’m not sure. However, I think there’s a fair chance it happens, and it didn’t cost us much at all. It will be interesting to see if Landry Jones is cut and Rudolph is immediately entrenched as the backup, or if Rudolph with start as the 3rd-stringer thus pushing Dobbs to the practice squad.
Round 3, Pick 92: Chukwuma Okorafor, OT, Western Michigan
One of the clear priorities for Pittsburgh was building back up the Offensive Line depth, and I expected a mid-round pick to be used to do so. OT Chris Hubbard, who started 10 games this past season while incumbent starter Marcus Gilbert battled with injuries and a PED suspension, signed a nice contract to go start for the Cleveland Browns. Hubbard, and the stability he brought when Gilbert went down, will be sorely missed, and the Steelers needed to start developing a new OT with Gilbert’s contract soon coming to a close. One word to describe Chukwuma Okorafor is raw, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing given OL Coach Mike Munchak’s track record. Okorafor looks the part of an NFL OT, with a 6’6 320 frame and lengthy arms. He has quick feet and solid functional strength. Okorafor, however, is not exactly the best athlete (but far from a huge mess like Orlando Brown or Jamarco Jones) and his technique is incredibly wonky. There is little pressure for Okorafor to play early as he is behind Marcus Gilbert and likely Matt Feiler, so Munchak will have a lot of time to iron out his technique and mold him into a starting-caliber player. If this works out, Okorafor will be our eventual RT replacement for Marcus Gilbert. Continuity along the OL is crucial for a team’s success.
Round 5, Pick 148: Marcus Allen, SAF, Penn State
For my money, I expect Marcus Allen to end up converting to LB full-time. His film shows a player that hits like a train and is not afraid of contact whatsoever. He is aggressive and physical, and he makes his presence felt over the middle. Given our lack of ILB depth and the skillset he brings, I think the best course of action is to bulk up a bit and become a true LB. Don’t even bother with coverage where he struggles outside of basic underneath man concepts, and instead let him be a physical run defender. Despite this, Allen can and likely will be used as a traditional SS in some packages, where we could use improved second-level tackling and aggression. The Steelers definitely liked his down-hill style of play, and the leadership he brought to Penn State’s secondary. Depending on the extent of versatility the Steelers defense operates with, Allen could see some time playing SS or LB early.
Round 5, Pick 165: Jaylen Samuels, OW, North Carolina State
I have marked NC State player Jaylen Samuels as an offensive weapon, because he basically played every role for them. Traditionally he’s an RB, but he also played snaps at TE, slot WR, and FB. He’s a do-it-all player, and his stats and usage at NC State reflect that. Samuels accumulated 1000 yards through both rushing and receiving, and he acted as a mismatch for opposing defenses. As a runner, he has good speed and makes sharp cuts, and can run both inside in out (including jet-sweeps). As a pass catcher, he can catch out of the backfield and line up directly in the slot. This pick, to me, seems like effectively bracing for the potential departure of Le’Veon Bell. Our offense is heavily reliant on Bell’s capabilities as a pass-catcher, and Jaylen Samuels brings exactly that. If Bell is to depart, I expect the Steelers to match Samuels’ pass-catching capabilities with more of a pure-runner to create a RB duo. Regardless of what becomes of the Bell situation however, Samuels can be an immediate contributor. Given our lack of depth at WR, Samuels could see a lot of time as a slot WR or in situations where Bell lines up out wide and he starts in the backfield. I expect our OC Randy Fichtner to use him to create mismatches, creating another issue that defenses have to deal with. Also, Samuels will very likely be a special teams ace, including possibly as a returner.
Round 7, Pick 246: Joshua Frazier, DT, Alabama
To conclude their draft, the Steelers picked exactly who I expected them to with Alabama DT Joshua Frazier. The Steelers hired former Alabama DL Coach Karl Dunbar to the exact same role, and they met and had dinner with Frazier at the Alabama pro day. It was an obvious connection. Frazier didn’t play much at Alabama due to the abundance of talent they have on their DL, but he still had a role as a run-stuffer. That’s exactly what he’ll be for us if he makes the roster. Frazier has ideal NT size and plays with aggression and strength to stuff the run. He’s not really capable of doing anything outside of space-eating, but that is something we could use as depth. He has a very clear path to a roster spot, having only to beat out Dan McCullers for the backup NT spot. If he makes the roster, I expect him to be used in goal-line/obvious run situations. Decent depth to have, and it’s nice to give our new DL coach one of his former players.
Notable UDFAs
Matthew Thomas, LB, Florida State: Best bet to make the 53-man roster given our lack of depth and athleticism at ILB. Thomas is the very best SPARQ LB in this class, with a +2.0 Z-Score, and his explosiveness shows on film. His 2016 tape shows a speedy player and capable playmaker in the box and who does well against outside runs. Thomas, like really everyone on the 2017 FSU defense, struggled this past season. If he can show just something instinctually, there’s a very good chance the Steelers keep him on roster for his athleticism alone.
Quadree Henderson, WR, Pittsburgh: Local product who has played his career at Heinz Field, Quadree is a gadget player and threat as a returner. He tied the ACC record for punt-return TDs in his career at Pittsburgh. I can’t even remember the last time we had a return threat, so if Quadree can continue to show something in that department he has a chance to make the roster. He’ll likely have to show improvement as a receiver to avoid the practice squad initially, but with our lack of WR depth it’s not impossible.
Ola Adeniyi, EDGE, Toledo: Adeniyi has some sort of shot to make our roster simply due to lack of EDGE depth. He’s not an amazing athlete and he doesn’t have ideal measurable, but he has experience as a stand-up pass rusher and he has active hands and strength. Long-shot, but possible.
Roster Prediction
Italicized = Projected Stater
QB: (3) Ben Roethlisberger, Landry Jones, Mason Rudolph
RB: (4) Le’Veon Bell, James Conner, Jaylen Samuels, Roosevelt Nix (FB)
WR: (5) Antonio Brown, JuJu Smith-Schuster, James Washington, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Marcus Tucker
TE: (3) Vance McDonald, Jesse James, Jake McGee
OL: (9) Alejandro Villanueva, Ramon Foster, Maurkice Pouncey, David DeCastro, Marcus Gilbert, BJ Finney, Matt Feiler, Jerald Hawkins, Chukwuma Okorafor
DL: (6) Cameron Heyward, Stephon Tuitt, Javon Hargrave, Tyson Alualu, LT Walton, Joshua Frazier
EDGE: (4) TJ Watt, Bud Dupree, Anthony Chickillo, Keion Adams
ILB: (6) Vince Williams, Jon Bostic, Marcus Allen, Tyler Matakevich, LJ Fort, Matthew Thomas
CB: (5) Artie Burns, Joe Haden, Mike Hilton, Cameron Sutton, Brian Allen
SAF: (5) Morgan Burnett, Sean Davis, Terrell Edmunds, Nat Behre, Malik Golden
ST: (3) Chris Boswell, Jordan Berry, Kameron Canaday
Future Needs
Inside Linebacker: It’s very unlikely Ryan Shazier will be back for 2019 or even ever, and the combination of Jon Bostic + Sub-Package Players is not a long-term solution. Getting a true starter at LB is a must, particularly one with good athleticism and range.
EDGE: The Steelers exercised Bud Dupree’s 5th-year option, but he hasn’t quite been as good as expected and our depth here is incredibly poor. The Steelers need someone who can be a rotational pass-rusher or even potentially a future starter if Bud Dupree fails to develop.
Running Back: This is entirely dependent on Le’Veon Bell’s contract. If he reaches a long-term deal, write this one off completely. If he doesn’t, then I expect a pure runner to pair with Jaylen Samuels.
Cornerback: Our CB situation looks set for the near future, but a Joe Haden replacement isn’t the worst idea given his age. Haden only has two more years left on his deal, so grooming a replacement could work. This becomes a bigger need if Artie Burns fails to improve.
Interior Offensive Line: Maurkice Pouncey and Ramon Foster are both getting up there in age. BJ Finney will likely get the first crack at replacing them, but if a talented player is there for us it may be worth taking.
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2017.01.09 05:49 MatthewMir The Essential Cesaro Match Collection: The best and most significant Cesaro matches

Hey wrestling fans, it’s that time of the week again where I give Wreddit a retrospective list of matches from a certain superstar (Even though I’m several days late because I’ve been on holidays, but that’s okay). Over the last couple of weeks I made several lists of Essential Career Matches. You can either access them all through this link or here:
WrestleYears Date
2000 - 2004 16/07/2016
2005 - 2010 03/07/2016
2011 - 2016 24/06/2016
John Cena 24/07/2016
The Undertaker 29/07/2016
Triple H 06/08/2016
Chris Jericho 14/08/2016
Randy Orton 19/08/2016
Dolph Ziggler 26/08/2016
Seth Rollins 03/09/2016
CM Punk 10/09/2016
AJ Styles 16/09/2016
The Miz 23/09/2016
Shawn Michaels 30/09/2016
Eddie Guerrero 08/10/2016
Stone Cold Steve Austin 16/10/2016
The Rock 22/10/2016
Dean Ambrose 28/10/2016
Kurt Angle 04/11/2016
Brock Lesnar 12/11/2016
Survivor Series 18/11/2016
Edge 25/11/2016
Batista 02/12/2016
Ric Flair 09/12/2016
Mick Foley 17/12/2016
Bret Hart 23/12/2016
2016 30/12/2016
 
This week we’re doing the Swiss Superman, The Peak of Technique, King of Swing… Cesaro.
Thanks to everyone that participated on the voting last week I really appreciate. There will be another poll at the end for next weeks superstar at the bottom of this list – Please vote..
These collection of matches comes from Dave Meltzer (his matches feature his ratings for matches rated 3 ½* Stars and matches that I believe that are also good too. (Unlike my former lists, instead of putting them in honourable mentions, I’ve added them to the normal list so matches can be watched in chronological order, these matches will not have the match ratings next to it – I’m just trying something different feel free to tell me whether you like it or not). If you have any suggestions for matches that could be included simply privately message me or add a comment on this and I will considerate it. Please read the entire list before commenting saying I’ve forgotten a match.. Also since a few people have commented on these posts saying 'stop throwing lists at us with no information' so on a few matches I’ve added a little bit of a backstory for new fans/fans of who haven’t seen the matches, some match details do contain spoilers, so you have been warned, but really if you’re getting up in arms about a match spoiler from several years ago that’s not my problem. I have also tried to add a link to each match as well, videos come from either WWE Network, YouTube and Daily Motion. Lastly, and most importantly, I used Meltzer’s ratings as a guide but make sure to make your own opinion (or rating in this case) about the matches. Just cause he gives something a 3, doesn't mean that it isn't a 5 to you! If you do not like this list because I’ve based it off ratings, that is not my problem. Alright, now lets start the list:
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Next Weeks Essential List:
As the voting on the last Essential List post the following names were voted in this order - Roman Reigns, Cody Rhodes & Sheamus. Now unless people suggest other names this will remain the order. I will also be dropping an Essential Royal Rumble Match post either before the Rumble event or the day of the event.
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2016.12.30 16:36 MatthewMir The Essential 2016 Match Collection: The best and most significant 2016 matches

Hey wrestling fans, it’s that time of the week again where I give Wreddit a retrospective list of matches from a certain superstar, over the last couple of weeks I made several lists of Essential Career Matches. You can either access them all through this link or here:
WrestleYears Date
2000 - 2004 16/07/2016
2005 - 2010 03/07/2016
2011 - 2016 24/06/2016
John Cena 24/07/2016
The Undertaker 29/07/2016
Triple H 06/08/2016
Chris Jericho 14/08/2016
Randy Orton 19/08/2016
Dolph Ziggler 26/08/2016
Seth Rollins 03/09/2016
CM Punk 10/09/2016
AJ Styles 16/09/2016
The Miz 23/09/2016
Shawn Michaels 30/09/2016
Eddie Guerrero 08/10/2016
Stone Cold Steve Austin 16/10/2016
The Rock 22/10/2016
Dean Ambrose 28/10/2016
Kurt Angle 04/11/2016
Brock Lesnar 12/11/2016
Survivor Series 18/11/2016
Edge 25/11/2016
Batista 02/12/2016
Ric Flair 09/12/2016
Mick Foley 17/12/2016
Bret Hart 23/12/2016
 
This week we’re doing we’re looking back at 2016 as a whole from many promotions including WWE, NXT, NJPW ROH, TNA, and many others.
These collection of matches include Dave Meltzer’s rating besides it (if rated), I couldn’t include every match with a 3-5 rating like my previous lists, so I just included the most essential matches for the year. Unlike my former lists, instead of putting them in honourable mentions, I’ve put all matches together in chronological in order, going through month by month. If you have any suggestions for matches that could be included simply privately message me or add a comment on this and I will considerate it. Please read the entire list before commenting saying I’ve forgotten a match.. Also since a few people have commented on these posts saying 'stop throwing lists at us with no information' so on a few matches I’ve added a little bit of a backstory for new fans/fans of who haven’t seen the matches, some match details do contain spoilers, so you have been warned, but really if you’re getting up in arms about a match spoiler from several years ago that’s not my problem. If a match is missing a quick sentence/backstory feel free to comment something and I will add it next to it. I have also tried to add a link to each match as well, videos come from either WWE Network, NJPW World, YouTube and Daily Motion. However, there will be heaps of matches from other non-WWE shows missing purely because I couldn’t find direct good links to those matches and I apologize for that. **Lastly, and most importantly, These are my opinions on the matches, they don’t need to be the same as yours, if you don’t like them that’s completely fine – hey if you want write a comment explaining why you disagree with my comment.
Alright, now lets start the list:
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Next Weeks Essential List:
Next weeks list will be determined on who has the most votes in this poll please continue to vote, every vote counts.
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2015.10.31 01:00 IdRatherBeLurking GAME THREAD: Minnesota Timberwolves (1-0 W1) @ Denver Nuggets (1-0 W1) Oct 30, 2015

Time Media Location Chat
9:00PM EST TV: Altitude (DEN) , FSN (MIN) Pepsi Center - Denver, CO IRC
8:00PM CST Streaming: Audio Team Subreddits
7:00PM MST Previews: Denver Stiffs, Canis Hoopus /DenverNuggets
6:00PM PST Box Score: NBA.com /Timberwolves
1:00PM AEDT /NBA Game Thread

Starting Lineups

Timberwolves Nuggets
PG Ricky Rubio PG Emmanuel Mudiay
SG Andrew Wiggins SG Gary Harris
SF Tashaun Prince SF Danilo Gallinari
PF Kevin Garnett PF Kenneth Faried
C Karl-Anthony Towns C Joffrey Lauvergne

Injury/Inactive Report

Timberwolves Nuggets
Nikola Pekovic (O) achilles Wilson Chandler (O) hip strain
Jusuf Nurkic (O) torn patella

Lines

Timberwolves 3.5
Nuggets : -3.5
O/U: 204

Series Notes

  • Since the start of the 2005-06 season, Denver has gone 16-5 at the Pepsi Center against Minnesota
  • The Nuggets have won 31 of the last 41 meetings overall with the Wolves, dating back to the end of the 2004-05 season – including 26 of the last 33
  • On 12/10/08, former Nuggets forward Carmelo Anthony tied an NBA record by scoring 33 points in the third quarter against the Timberwolves in Denver
  • In the first meeting between these teams during the 2010-11 season, former Timberwolves star Kevin Love hung 43 points on the Nuggets to become the first ever Timberwolves player to score 40+ points against Denver during the regular season.

Connections

  • Wolves guard Andre Miller played seven seasons for Denver (2003-07, 2011-13), appearing in 447 games (289 starts) and averaging 12.0 points, 3.8 rebounds and 6.7 assists per game
  • Nuggets guard Randy Foye spent his first three seasons in the NBA with Minnesota from 2006-09 and in 191 games, Foye averaged 13.0 points, 3.7 assists and 2.9 rebounds
  • Timberwolves assistant coach Sidney Lowe was the head coach of Nuggets forward J.J. Hickson at North Carolina State University
  • Nuggets forward Mike Miller spent the 2008-09 season with Minnesota, averaging 9.9 points, 4.5 assists and 6.6 rebounds
  • Nuggets guard Gary Harris and Timberwolves forward Adreian Payne were teammates at Michigan State University for two seasons (2012-14)
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2015.10.31 01:00 IdRatherBeLurking GAME THREAD: Minnesota Timberwolves (1-0 W1) @ Denver Nuggets (1-0 W1) Oct 30, 2015

Time Media Location Chat
9:00PM EST TV: Altitude (DEN) , FSN (MIN) Pepsi Center - Denver, CO IRC
8:00PM CST Streaming: Audio Team Subreddits
7:00PM MST Previews: Denver Stiffs, Canis Hoopus /DenverNuggets
6:00PM PST Box Score: NBA.com /Timberwolves

Starting Lineups

Timberwolves Nuggets
PG Ricky Rubio PG Emmanuel Mudiay
SG Andrew Wiggins SG Gary Harris
SF Tashaun Prince SF Danilo Gallinari
PF Kevin Garnett PF Kenneth Faried
C Karl-Anthony Towns C Joffrey Lauvergne

Injury/Inactive Report

Timberwolves Nuggets
Nikola Pekovic (O) achilles Wilson Chandler (O) hip strain
Jusuf Nurkic (O) torn patella

Betting Lines

Timberwolves 3.5
Nuggets : -3.5
O/U: 204

Series Notes

  • Since the start of the 2005-06 season, Denver has gone 16-5 at the Pepsi Center against Minnesota
  • The Nuggets have won 31 of the last 41 meetings overall with the Wolves, dating back to the end of the 2004-05 season – including 26 of the last 33
  • On 12/10/08, former Nuggets forward Carmelo Anthony tied an NBA record by scoring 33 points in the third quarter against the Timberwolves in Denver
  • In the first meeting between these teams during the 2010-11 season, former Timberwolves star Kevin Love hung 43 points on the Nuggets to become the first ever Timberwolves player to score 40+ points against Denver during the regular season.

Connections

  • Wolves guard Andre Miller played seven seasons for Denver (2003-07, 2011-13), appearing in 447 games (289 starts) and averaging 12.0 points, 3.8 rebounds and 6.7 assists per game
  • Nuggets guard Randy Foye spent his first three seasons in the NBA with Minnesota from 2006-09 and in 191 games, Foye averaged 13.0 points, 3.7 assists and 2.9 rebounds
  • Timberwolves assistant coach Sidney Lowe was the head coach of Nuggets forward J.J. Hickson at North Carolina State University
  • Nuggets forward Mike Miller spent the 2008-09 season with Minnesota, averaging 9.9 points, 4.5 assists and 6.6 rebounds
  • Nuggets guard Gary Harris and Timberwolves forward Adreian Payne were teammates at Michigan State University for two seasons (2012-14)
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2014.05.20 07:27 zVitiate Wolfenstein: The New Order - Review Thread

Wolfenstein: The New Order
Release Date: May 20, 2014
Platforms: PC, PS4, Xbox One, PS3, and Xbox 360
Developer: Machine Games
Publisher: Bethesda Softworks
Polygon 9/10
Review
Author: Arthur Gies
The New Order’s got all the workings of a classic shooter. But in their trip back to the well, Machine Games has brought all of its talents to bear. The New Order is held together, even rocketed beyond the basic sum of its smart levels and effective mechanics by its characters. That humanity takes what would be a good shooter and makes it something truly memorable.
Metro 9/10
Review
Author: David Jenkins
In Short: The best Wolfenstein game ever made and one of the best single-player shooters for years, with a brave attempt to tackle serious issues and still have fun at the same time.
PCWorld 4.5/5
Review
Author: Hayden Dingman
It's not Wolfenstein, but it so, so is. If you're only coming to Wolfenstein for an old-school, twitch-shooting experience, stay the hell away. This game is not the game you want. This game is Modern Warfare in a crazy Nazi Castle setting.
But oh wow. Forget Citizen Kane. This is the Torque of video games. If you're the type of person who quotes Schwarzenegger one-liners, finds something inherently funny about robot dogs, and (maybe) put Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon on your Game of the Year list last year, then yeah—you should pick up Wolfenstein: The New Order.
AusGamers 8.7/10
Review
Author: nachosjustice
While part of me is disappointed at the lack of multiplayer (more Enemy Territory anyone?), the lengthy (by shooter standards) and cinematic campaign was an absolute riot from start to finish, tainted only by the strange inclusion of back-at-base missions that included jarring fetch quests. Wolfenstein: The New Order is a fantastic blend of old-school tropes and contemporary improvements that warrants a second play-through.
Gamespot 8/10
Review
Author: Daniel Hindes
The New Order's combat intensity and variety have granted the Wolfenstein series a breath of fresh air, whilst still managing to hit the nostalgic highs that I expect from the series. It has injected some substance into the primal pleasure of shooting Nazis by way of an interesting tone that addresses the changing roles of first-person shooter protagonists. Through this, the game is both a celebration of the Wolfenstein series and what feels like a fitting send-off for it. The New Order could be the last hurrah of William "BJ" Blazkowicz, an outing which, for all its excess and bombast, is far from mindless.
Game Informer 8/10
Review
Author: Matt Bertz
Wolfenstein: The New Order is a positive step forward for the series after the last dud. Machine Games presents a competent shooter with more polish and a better array of characters, but ultimately the game feels more comfortable recompiling established conventions than it does striving for innovation.
CraveOnline 8/10
Review
Author: Jonathan Leack
As a result of Wolfenstein: The New Order's pacing and gameplay mechanics, it feels a lot more like a classic shooter than the games store shelves have been stuffed with for the past few years. It manages to remain interesting for most of the journey, presenting enough gameplay choice that the 20 hours don't feel like a grind. It's only when the A.I. falters that the game distances itself from you.
This isn't the second coming of Wolfenstein 3D, but it doesn't have to be. It's a simple and fun single-player shooter that has arrived to show that Wolfenstein is still relevant.
Time 4/5
Review
Author: Matt Peckham
There’s a flip side to The New Order‘s dalliance with moral depth (and concentration camps, and suicide bombings) as well. At one point early on, I had to approach from behind a seated Nazi commander speaking to his superior by phone. If you pause to listen to the conversation before knifing him, you learn, among other things, that he has children, that his wife is pregnant and that he’s hoping for a promotion. And then you’re required to kill him, because progress is impossible if you don’t (the alternative being alerting and letting him kill you, or quitting the game and calling that that). It’s a false choice, a morally suspect scene in which you’re asked to identify with your all-too-human victim before ending his existence. But you’re given no other choice. It’s kill or quit. And gamers won’t quit. They never do.
Spawnfirst 8/10
Review
Author: Karl Dodds
If you like to hunt for collectibles, such as golden Nazi artifacts, there’s plenty to keep you occupied here. However, the fact that the story can be completed in 11 hours and the game’s distinct lack of multiplayer make it a little hard for me to recommend a purchase at full price. If you’re a completionist there’s enough here to keep you occupied for 20+ hours, but that’s only if you want to see the outcome of both timelines and collect absolutely everything. If you’re the type of gamer to run through the story once and move on, I would think twice before you pay full price for this. - See more at: http://www.spawnfirst.com/reviews/wolfenstein-new-order-review/#sthash.V6rRCwMi.dpuf
USgamer 4/5
Review
Author: Jaz Rignall
Ultimately, Wolfenstein sets out to go big, and it certainly does. Perhaps too big, as its flaws all seem to stem from the game simply needing a little more time to finesse – and perhaps it being too much for the team to fully do so. But, in the end these flaws don’t overly tarnish what is otherwise a bloody good shooter. While it’ll occasionally make you groan, and might sometimes make you want to hurl your controller across the room, in the (rather anticlimactic) end, Wolfenstein’s enduring memory is one of glorious guts and gore, magnificent vistas and maleficent villains, spectacular set pieces and a storyline that’s epic in every sense of the word.
Shacknews 8/10
Review
Author: Robert Workman
Despite the lack of multiplayer and fetch-quests that interrupt the blood-spilling action, Wolfenstein: The New Order is a welcome return to form for the series. Its gameplay is good fun, whether you prefer blasting enemies to bits or being sneaky-like. The beautiful presentation makes the most out of the new hardware, and it squeezes some impressive life out of older systems. Blazkowicz's return has a long time coming, but Machine Games has assured that it was worth it.
IGN 7.8/10
Review
Author: Colin Moriarty
Wolfenstein: The New Order is the melding of your typical, everyday shooter with quality writing and a cast of believable and relatable characters. Machinegames' more grounded treatment of the often way over-the-top alternate Nazi history is also a nice touch, and while The New Order is in no way, shape, or form a simulation of the real world, its 10-to-12 hour campaign can certainly make you stop and wonder more than, say, Raven's 2009's occult-centric Wolfenstein reboot.
GamesBeat 78/100
Review
Author: Evan Killham
While shooting fascists in video games will likely always be fun, The New Order falters when it’s trying to decide how you should feel about it. Its options and ridiculously sized weapons provide a lot of enjoyment, but the story tries so hard to be serious that it forgets that this is a game that includes Moon Nazis.
Destructoid 7.5/10
Review
Author: Chris Carter
In many ways, Wolfenstein: The New Order is "First-Person Shooters: The Game," but it gets most of the important details right. It's weird seeing a Wolf game that's not developed by id Software (who is busy with Doom 4), but MachineGames did a great job adapting the franchise in its own way. With a few tweaks, the next iteration could be something truly special.
Escapist
Review
Author: Jim Sterling
This latest entry into the beloved Wolfenstein series accomplishes pretty much what it sets out to do - deliver a fuss-free roller coaster of setpieces and guiltless butchery. It's not exactly the most impressive of goals, but it's not without merit!
Joystiq 3/5
Review
Author: Ludwig Kietzmann
The greatest problem in Wolfenstein: The New Order, then, is a jarring inconsistency of tone and cohesion. The quiet moments in your Berlin hovel feel like they belong in a more contemplative game, yet each new mission dumps you into the next sewer or train with little substance or explanation. It's almost as if there's a tug of war going between the big dumb shooter and the attempt to be subversive, with the result being a game that's not really slick enough to be an action classic, and not dramatic enough to draw you in.
Eurogamer 6/10
Review
Author: Paul Dean
Wolfenstein: The New Order has all sorts of war stories it wants to share with you and it knows how it wants you to feel, but it's not convincing. Its stories are more sensational than poignant. It's a decent shooter with a good few impressive moments, but it can be buggy and it doesn't offer much you can't find elsewhere, with little to tempt you back when it's over. Where it most tries to stand out, in its narrative and setting, it often comes off as juvenile. Overall, it's built on an impressive world but it doesn't do enough with it, and as a result it's curious, but hardly compelling.
WTF Is... - Wolfenstein: The New Order
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2014.05.20 07:05 zVitiate Wolfenstein: The New Order - Review Thread

Wolfenstein: The New Order
Release Date: May 20, 2014
Platforms: PC, PS4, Xbox One, PS3, and Xbox 360
Developer: Machine Games
Publisher: Bethesda Softworks
Polygon 9/10
Review
Author: Arthur Gies
The New Order’s got all the workings of a classic shooter. But in their trip back to the well, Machine Games has brought all of its talents to bear. The New Order is held together, even rocketed beyond the basic sum of its smart levels and effective mechanics by its characters. That humanity takes what would be a good shooter and makes it something truly memorable.
Metro 9/10
Review
Author: David Jenkins
In Short: The best Wolfenstein game ever made and one of the best single-player shooters for years, with a brave attempt to tackle serious issues and still have fun at the same time.
PCWorld 4.5/5
Review
Author: Hayden Dingman
It's not Wolfenstein, but it so, so is. If you're only coming to Wolfenstein for an old-school, twitch-shooting experience, stay the hell away. This game is not the game you want. This game is Modern Warfare in a crazy Nazi Castle setting.
But oh wow. Forget Citizen Kane. This is the Torque of video games. If you're the type of person who quotes Schwarzenegger one-liners, finds something inherently funny about robot dogs, and (maybe) put Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon on your Game of the Year list last year, then yeah—you should pick up Wolfenstein: The New Order.
AusGamers 8.7/10
Review
Author: nachosjustice
While part of me is disappointed at the lack of multiplayer (more Enemy Territory anyone?), the lengthy (by shooter standards) and cinematic campaign was an absolute riot from start to finish, tainted only by the strange inclusion of back-at-base missions that included jarring fetch quests. Wolfenstein: The New Order is a fantastic blend of old-school tropes and contemporary improvements that warrants a second play-through.
Gamespot 8/10
Review
Author: Daniel Hindes
The New Order's combat intensity and variety have granted the Wolfenstein series a breath of fresh air, whilst still managing to hit the nostalgic highs that I expect from the series. It has injected some substance into the primal pleasure of shooting Nazis by way of an interesting tone that addresses the changing roles of first-person shooter protagonists. Through this, the game is both a celebration of the Wolfenstein series and what feels like a fitting send-off for it. The New Order could be the last hurrah of William "BJ" Blazkowicz, an outing which, for all its excess and bombast, is far from mindless.
Game Informer 8/10
Review
Author: Matt Bertz
Wolfenstein: The New Order is a positive step forward for the series after the last dud. Machine Games presents a competent shooter with more polish and a better array of characters, but ultimately the game feels more comfortable recompiling established conventions than it does striving for innovation.
CraveOnline 8/10
Review
Author: Jonathan Leack
As a result of Wolfenstein: The New Order's pacing and gameplay mechanics, it feels a lot more like a classic shooter than the games store shelves have been stuffed with for the past few years. It manages to remain interesting for most of the journey, presenting enough gameplay choice that the 20 hours don't feel like a grind. It's only when the A.I. falters that the game distances itself from you.
This isn't the second coming of Wolfenstein 3D, but it doesn't have to be. It's a simple and fun single-player shooter that has arrived to show that Wolfenstein is still relevant.
Time 4/5
Review
Author: Matt Peckham
There’s a flip side to The New Order‘s dalliance with moral depth (and concentration camps, and suicide bombings) as well. At one point early on, I had to approach from behind a seated Nazi commander speaking to his superior by phone. If you pause to listen to the conversation before knifing him, you learn, among other things, that he has children, that his wife is pregnant and that he’s hoping for a promotion. And then you’re required to kill him, because progress is impossible if you don’t (the alternative being alerting and letting him kill you, or quitting the game and calling that that). It’s a false choice, a morally suspect scene in which you’re asked to identify with your all-too-human victim before ending his existence. But you’re given no other choice. It’s kill or quit. And gamers won’t quit. They never do.
Spawnfirst 8/10
Review
Author: Karl Dodds
If you like to hunt for collectibles, such as golden Nazi artifacts, there’s plenty to keep you occupied here. However, the fact that the story can be completed in 11 hours and the game’s distinct lack of multiplayer make it a little hard for me to recommend a purchase at full price. If you’re a completionist there’s enough here to keep you occupied for 20+ hours, but that’s only if you want to see the outcome of both timelines and collect absolutely everything. If you’re the type of gamer to run through the story once and move on, I would think twice before you pay full price for this. - See more at: http://www.spawnfirst.com/reviews/wolfenstein-new-order-review/#sthash.V6rRCwMi.dpuf
USgamer 4/5
Review
Author: Jaz Rignall
Ultimately, Wolfenstein sets out to go big, and it certainly does. Perhaps too big, as its flaws all seem to stem from the game simply needing a little more time to finesse – and perhaps it being too much for the team to fully do so. But, in the end these flaws don’t overly tarnish what is otherwise a bloody good shooter. While it’ll occasionally make you groan, and might sometimes make you want to hurl your controller across the room, in the (rather anticlimactic) end, Wolfenstein’s enduring memory is one of glorious guts and gore, magnificent vistas and maleficent villains, spectacular set pieces and a storyline that’s epic in every sense of the word.
Shacknews 8/10
Review
Author: Robert Workman
Despite the lack of multiplayer and fetch-quests that interrupt the blood-spilling action, Wolfenstein: The New Order is a welcome return to form for the series. Its gameplay is good fun, whether you prefer blasting enemies to bits or being sneaky-like. The beautiful presentation makes the most out of the new hardware, and it squeezes some impressive life out of older systems. Blazkowicz's return has a long time coming, but Machine Games has assured that it was worth it.
IGN 7.8/10
Review
Author: Colin Moriarty
Wolfenstein: The New Order is the melding of your typical, everyday shooter with quality writing and a cast of believable and relatable characters. Machinegames' more grounded treatment of the often way over-the-top alternate Nazi history is also a nice touch, and while The New Order is in no way, shape, or form a simulation of the real world, its 10-to-12 hour campaign can certainly make you stop and wonder more than, say, Raven's 2009's occult-centric Wolfenstein reboot.
GamesBeat 78/100
Review
Author: Evan Killham
While shooting fascists in video games will likely always be fun, The New Order falters when it’s trying to decide how you should feel about it. Its options and ridiculously sized weapons provide a lot of enjoyment, but the story tries so hard to be serious that it forgets that this is a game that includes Moon Nazis.
Destructoid 7.5/10
Review
Author: Chris Carter
In many ways, Wolfenstein: The New Order is "First-Person Shooters: The Game," but it gets most of the important details right. It's weird seeing a Wolf game that's not developed by id Software (who is busy with Doom 4), but MachineGames did a great job adapting the franchise in its own way. With a few tweaks, the next iteration could be something truly special.
Escapist
Review
Author: Jim Sterling
This latest entry into the beloved Wolfenstein series accomplishes pretty much what it sets out to do - deliver a fuss-free roller coaster of setpieces and guiltless butchery. It's not exactly the most impressive of goals, but it's not without merit!
Joystiq 3/5
Review
Author: Ludwig Kietzmann
The greatest problem in Wolfenstein: The New Order, then, is a jarring inconsistency of tone and cohesion. The quiet moments in your Berlin hovel feel like they belong in a more contemplative game, yet each new mission dumps you into the next sewer or train with little substance or explanation. It's almost as if there's a tug of war going between the big dumb shooter and the attempt to be subversive, with the result being a game that's not really slick enough to be an action classic, and not dramatic enough to draw you in.
Eurogamer 6/10
Review
Author: Paul Dean
Wolfenstein: The New Order has all sorts of war stories it wants to share with you and it knows how it wants you to feel, but it's not convincing. Its stories are more sensational than poignant. It's a decent shooter with a good few impressive moments, but it can be buggy and it doesn't offer much you can't find elsewhere, with little to tempt you back when it's over. Where it most tries to stand out, in its narrative and setting, it often comes off as juvenile. Overall, it's built on an impressive world but it doesn't do enough with it, and as a result it's curious, but hardly compelling.
WTF Is... - Wolfenstein: The New Order
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2013.01.15 11:42 tabledresser [Table] IAmA: We are Blake Anderson, Anders Holm and Adam DeVine from Workaholics - AMA

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Date: 2013-01-14
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Questions Answers
How accurate was the episode where you guys meet? If it's not, then what's the real story? No, it's not accurate. Blake and Kyle grew up together in the Bay Area and met Adam in Orange County at Orange Coast in an Improv class. Then I met Adam in LA at Second City LA. Then we all fucked each other's brains out and invented the show.
Adama, when did you first realize you were attractive enough to be a celebrity but ugly enough to still be funny? It's a lot of work to maintain the perfect amount of comedy neck fat.
In the poolside fight scene did you actually have boners? Or is there some sort of boner simulating device that you used? Of course they were real.
Where did the 'tight butthole' phrase originate? We were talking about how arbitrary it is that people say TITS instead of COOL. So we were thinking, why don't people just say TIGHT BUTTHOLE. Then we put it in the show. And geographically, this happened in Los Angeles.
What was it like being on Arrested Development? How awesome is the new season going to be? How much of that awesomeness is directly related to your presence? EDIT: Also, favorite guest star to work with on Workaholics? Any chance any of those characters could return? Being on Arrested was unreal. Was waiting for Beiber to pop out and punk us. Can't wait to see it. Mitch Hurwitz is a human genius. Jason Bateman is effortlessly hilarious.
How much of the show is improv? Edit: Also, what are some of the best improv moments that made it to the final cut? We improv a ton on the show but we also write a tight script and then once we get it how we've written it we get strange and and do some bizarre shit. Thats when we find the really weird little moments that make our show a lil different.
So do you guys ever smoke real pot instead of prop stuff? And just off topic , Ders Im also a dry guy so dont Let the boys single you out ! I smoke real ass weeed maaan. Just not while we're shooting. I'm a stupid stoner. I literally cant even string sentences together while I'm stoned. I just like to giggle and watch movies.
How much pussy has this show gotten you? Just 2.
How about from pitch perfect? If I we're 15years old I'd be KILLING it after that movie.
When the show is over will you guys still write together? Thats the plan. We wrote a movie together and hope to shoot it this year.
Who is most like their character in real life? Waymond.
Are dads' dicks really that huge? Every time I see a father the only thing I can think of is if he's really packin'. Step dad dicks are the biggest.
Brazzers or BangBros? Brazzers.
Please dont make us answer this one.
Trick question.
Are there any celebs you've encountered that you were surprised were fans of the show? The Black keys are fans and have invited us out to shows and to kick it with them. That was pretty cool.
BLAKE, HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GET YOUR HAIR TO BE SO FUCKING AWESOME?! Soul glow.
Will i ever get to see the Wizards again? We want to do it as a cartoon. Would you guys watch that?
What is something that you wanted to put in the show and Comedy Central canned it for being too offensive? Does that happen often or do you guys have pretty free reign? They give us free reign. it's cool. they're cool.
If you could give a BJ to any man, who would it be? I would love to suck Kevin Costners dick for obvious reasons.
Myself.
Who is your favorite Pokemon? Slowbro for obvious reasons
How did it evolve that the three of you are the stars and Kyle just does appearances? Does he harbor any resentment about it? He's our director, thats what he likes to do, at least thats what he tells us.
What is the recipe for Eggs Tyrone? Thats the homie Lavell Crawfords secret recipe but if I had to guess I bet there's a lotta Lawrys.
Love the mid 80's to mid 90's pop culture references. Are there any more obscure blasts from the past this season???! the tightest buttholes btw! Yes...Its all we know. Tv was the dopest babysitter.
Favorite team on Legends of the Hidden Temple? Team Olmec.
Blue barracudas
Who chooses the songs for the show's soundtrack? They're all majorly righteous. We do. Shot out to our music dept for finding a lot of those songs though.
Do you guys have Xbox? And more importantly, what are your gamertags? Andybovine69.
Are you characters inspired by real people? If so, whom? Its just dumber versions of ourselves.
Be honest. Who's got the biggest dick? Edit: I'll accept flaccid size if you guys don't want to hold your boners together right now. We'll none of us are dads yet so pretty normal/medium huged sized. Just speaking for myself.
What's the weirdest thing ever to happen at a party you guys went to? We didn't drink. (buh dum,chish)
When you were doing Mail Order Comedy, was it in the hopes that it would be seen by someone and you'd get picked up for a show? Or was is just for fun and you all had "realistic" plans for your future? None of us had any " Realistic" plans. This is what we wanted to do and we took our lil comedy videos serious as fug. We worked hard on them and churned out a lot of content in a relatively short period of time. I think thats why comedy central trusted us with a show.
We've always wanted world domination. So we're moving up that ladder. None of us had " realistic plans" fo rthe future, which might be why we made it thru to the other side.
If the show didn't take off what would you guys be doing now? Delivering pizza and making Mail Order Comedy videos on the weekends with Adam Kyle and Ders.
Trying to get a show still or working on a movie or a weed dealer.
I'd probably still be at Real Time with Bill Maher (where i worked when the show was picked up), but hopefully not still as an assistant and as a writer.
Which episode was the most fun to shoot? Favorite albums of 2012? Shooting the flashback ep was a good time. Watching Adam fuck a chick off a high dive is something I've ALWAYS needed to see.
Your show is fucking hilarious. Keep up the great work. Do you guys ever smoke/drink on set or during shooting? Some scenes Adam looks insanely stoned. No. I'm just one of those guys that has stoned face all the time.
Who is your daddy and what does he do? He is a conductor for the railroad and his name is Dennis. Great dude.
Hey guys! Kudos on having the best comedy show out there! How did you guys come across working with Jillian Bell? Her delivery is so awesome on the show. Do you write her lines or does she do her own thing sometimes? BTW, if you get tired today RICE. We met her in a live comedy show in LA in 2006 (maybe) where she was in another sketch group. she's the best.
Why did they leave out Karl in the AMA? Karl is a badass directer and the guy from that T-Shirt. He's dead to us... but mostly because he's directing an episode of "happy endings"
Do you guys like Tim and Eric? SALAME!
Yes. tim was on the show.
Was "Workaholics" your only idea for a show or did you have other amazing ideas that obviously didn't make it? The Wizards as a cartoon
What kind of music do you all agree on and is there a specific band or artist? R. Kelly.
Blake: Are you half vampire, and if so, what are the advantages of having your fangs?? (Asking for a friend…) BLAKE: im a mummy.
Blunts or Papers? Papers for sure. It's 2013 not 1998.
A question for Adam: According to your Wikipedia page, you actually did major in human sexuality before dropping out. How much pussy did you get in that class? Thats a wiki lie. I studied beer bongs, screenwriting, and improv in community college.
Would you continue to pay $250/hr to hang out with Lori Beth Denberg? Yes.
Who's your dream comedian/actor to work with? Or show/cast? Kurt Russell.
The real question is, what really happened to The Rancho Chupacabraj? If you look very closely in the last scene when we bust through the fence on the hovercraft you can see it kickin it in the corner.
Do you guys use a smell test before going down on a female? Slime test
What was the most fun episode to make and why? I liked Man Up cause we got to rip around the canyons in that badass car.
Yo Adam I went to see Pitch Perfect, and my girlfriend kept saying that the lead singer of the TrebleMakers looked a lot like Channing Tatum. Where does being told you look like Channing Tatum rank on your lifetime accomplishments? 3rd right after "you look like the terminator" and "you gotta fat dick"
Who's your favorite Power Ranger? Tommy.
Who does the beatboxing before and after the commercial break? The skinny boys. They were a rap crew from the 80's.
The Skinny Boys.
Who are your comedic idols? Tim Allen.
MOST EMBARRASSING STORY YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO TELL US ON THE INTERNET? GO. I shit my pants before going on stage to do stand up once. I dug it out of my pants and threw it in a potted plant.
How many props did you have to add to make the house look trashy (or trashy-er)? Not that many, place stinks like shit.
Just wanted to say anders, I've gotten a lot of good music since I followed you. Got any other suggestions? Seal.
Has there ever been any sexual tension between yall three? Its the secret to our success Yoou REDDIT here first
Are you ever going to come into Wood Ranch yourselves or are you going to send your assistant every time? We'll come in and bear hug the shit outta you someday.
OOooo you got a crush on Naaate.
Tits or ass? Legs.
Dear Adam, I saw you when you came to Baton Rouge to film. It's was pretty cool cause you're on tv and like I'm not the only who knows you which makes you a little famous and I respect that shit man. You filmed inside my drug dealers house too. Will you fuck my girlfriend? 100% yes.
Can you guys please get Riff Raff in an episode? That shit would write itself. Jodyjodyjody.
Anders, how much Norwegian do you know? And when do we get to see you guys in Europe? Jeg kan ikke snakke norsk, men jeg kan spille en Amerikansk-norskman på TV. that made no sense.
I've seen some clips of Adam's stand-up but never been able to locate a place to watch or purchase a full set for any of you. Is there a place/site I could watch such material? You guys are fucking hysterical. I might be doing a stand up show for comedy central. If it all works out you can check me out there.
Will the three of you be attending SXSW this year? I HOPE SO!!!
How was it working with the late Jet-Set? He seems like he would have been hard to tell to do things a certain way or do lines differently, but maybe that's just how his character was portrayed. He was a pro. I love him a lot and ill miss him forever.
Adam, I'm from Omaha, Nebraska, my cousins went to Millard South like you did. But I learned something about you and me on Thanksgiving that astonished me. Want to know what it was? Sure...that I use to be a women? TELL NO ONE!
What was the one thing that you can say led to your guys's rise to fame? Also Adam, do the guys rip on you for pitch perfect? Also Blake, I met you like two years ago and you were rad, they say don't meet your heroes, but you were awesome and a role model for an aspiring improv actor Na, that movie rules. Der's loved it.
What's your favorite N64 game? Wcw vs nWo revenge
What advice do you have for a soon to be college graduate who works at a call center with his tight butthole friends and loves to sit on his roof and drunkenly yell at people? Keep it real.
Blake: Your hair is godly, coming from a fellow long-haired dude (no homo). I noticed in the flashback episode you were wearing a Kill 'Em All shirt. Are you a metalhead? Hell yes.
Who's the oldest female celebrity each of you would have sex with? Sally Field.
What is your favorite spot in Austin, TX? Shakespeare's.
What are your thoughts on Canada as a country? Just curious. MOOSE rule! So in turn Canada is tight.
Question: Can you acknowledge that I exist? Yup.
Sure.
After watching your show I just have one question. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? HELL YES.
If you guys and the 'It's Always Sunny' crew went toe-to-toe who walks away the winner. We're younger but those guys are ripped and im pretty sure a few of them have dad strength.
I would love to suck Kevin Costners dick for obvious reasons. Myself. Costner def has a clean one but im going with Paul Walker.
Why aren't the new seasons on netflix. Viacom be beefing with Netflix. Hopefully the squash it and give you guys the goods.
No question, and this will get buried, but Blake times have sure changed since you used to deliver me sandwiches from Socko's in Westwood. The sure have... RIP Socko's :(
You guys should hit up SNL and do an episode together. It'd be awesome seeing you guys live. Thatd be real cool but I'm pretty sure SNL would have to hit us up :(
Where do we send our naked pictures... Right here.
Anders I just wanted to say that the swim team at Wisconsin exclusively talks about you. At every party. All the time. Some even throwout the occasional "oh yeah we hung out" W on my cap til i die. Say wassup to the towel dude at the SERF for me.
Kate Upton, Susan Boyle, Woopi Goldberg. Whoopi trifecta.
One time I was at crazy party, someone turned on workaholics and more than half the party was in one little room just watching workaholics drunk as hell... That actually happened Thats cool.
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